Is there election meddling going on?

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ZippyZ

Quote from: ichi on November 12, 2020, 11:54:24 AM
meanwhile the campaign is asking for donations to help with the legal fund, EXCEPT you must donate more than $8000 to the fund before any of it goes to the legal fund, below $8000 all proceeds go to repaying old debt and financing a new media empire

Rudy said that the Trump Legal Defense Fund was as legit as the Trump Foundation. No need to read the fine print!  Well... you have to be impressed with the Trump con.  It took him about two minutes after he lost the election to start fleecing his supporters.  He just spewed Covid all over them for two months so why not take their money? Steve Bannon has already been indicted for stealing from the same dumb people with his "We Build The Wall" scam.  Stealing from MAGA-rubes is Wuhon Don's racket, and I am sure he is not pleased that he didn't get a cut from Sloppy Steve.

Oh well, the buy-a-pardon phase of the Trump con is coming soon. I fully expect criminals such as shady bankers from the Middle East, Turkey, China, Russia, etc to be granted pardons soon.

ichi

This is an official release from the US DHS Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency

https://www.cisa.gov/news/2020/11/12/joint-statement-elections-infrastructure-government-coordinating-council-election

QuoteJOINT STATEMENT FROM ELECTIONS INFRASTRUCTURE GOVERNMENT COORDINATING COUNCIL & THE ELECTION INFRASTRUCTURE SECTOR COORDINATING EXECUTIVE COMMITTEES

Original release date: November 12, 2020

WASHINGTON – The members of Election Infrastructure Government Coordinating Council (GCC) Executive Committee – Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency (CISA) Assistant Director Bob Kolasky, U.S. Election Assistance Commission Chair Benjamin Hovland, National Association of Secretaries of State (NASS) President Maggie Toulouse Oliver, National Association of State Election Directors (NASED) President Lori Augino, and Escambia County (Florida) Supervisor of Elections David Stafford – and the members of the Election Infrastructure Sector Coordinating Council (SCC) – Chair Brian Hancock (Unisyn Voting Solutions), Vice Chair Sam Derheimer (Hart InterCivic), Chris Wlaschin (Election Systems & Software), Ericka Haas (Electronic Registration Information Center), and Maria Bianchi (Democracy Works) - released the following statement:

"The November 3rd election was the most secure in American history. Right now, across the country, election officials are reviewing and double checking the entire election process prior to finalizing the result.

"When states have close elections, many will recount ballots. All of the states with close results in the 2020 presidential race have paper records of each vote, allowing the ability to go back and count each ballot if necessary. This is an added benefit for security and resilience. This process allows for the identification and correction of any mistakes or errors. There is no evidence that any voting system deleted or lost votes, changed votes, or was in any way compromised.

"Other security measures like pre-election testing, state certification of voting equipment, and the U.S. Election Assistance Commission's (EAC) certification of voting equipment help to build additional confidence in the voting systems used in 2020.

"While we know there are many unfounded claims and opportunities for misinformation about the process of our elections, we can assure you we have the utmost confidence in the security and integrity of our elections, and you should too. When you have questions, turn to elections officials as trusted voices as they administer elections."

this is a Newsweek report on the claims being made by Trump/RNC lawyers

https://www.newsweek.com/trump-campaign-lawyer-contradicts-president-court-says-we-are-not-alleging-fraud-1547018

basically campaign lawyers stated that they are not alleging fraud

from a NYT article about what's going on inside the WH "Trump floats improbable survival scenarios as he ponders his future"

QuoteBy dominating the story of his exit from the White House, he hopes to keep his millions of supporters energized and engaged for whatever comes next.
The president has insisted to aides that he really defeated Joseph R. Biden Jr. on Nov. 3, but it is unclear whether he actually believes it. And instead of conducting discreet requests for recounts, Mr. Trump has made a series of spurious claims, seizing on conspiracies fanned on the internet.
The latest was on Thursday, when he falsely claimed on Twitter that Dominion voting machines switched hundreds of thousands of his votes to Mr. Biden, citing a report he had seen on the fringe network OANN, something even his supporters called ridiculous and a federal agency overseeing cybersecurity disavowed in a statement.
Advisers said his efforts were in keeping with one of his favorite pastimes: creating a controversy and watching to see how it plays out.
As a next step, Mr. Trump is talking seriously about announcing that he is planning to run again in 2024, aware that whether he actually does it or not, it will freeze an already-crowded field of possible Republican candidates. And, Republicans say, it will keep the wide support he showed even in defeat and could guarantee a lucrative book deal or speaking fees.

oh wait, that's lamestream media so it must be fake, the truth only comes from one man, everyone else, all them other motherfuckers are lying 'scumbags'

even these guys 'Abuse of the rule of law': 1,000 ex-judges, legal experts slam Trump's false claims of voter fraud

and finally, a 538 piece on how people were conditioned to believe the election was a fraud, how we were 'primed'

https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/americans-were-primed-to-believe-the-current-onslaught-of-disinformation/

QuoteEven before he was president, Trump was alleging election fraud without producing evidence. During his 2016 campaign he claimed the election was "rigged" in favor of Clinton, predicted widespread voter fraud and announced he would accept the results of the election only if he won. Over the past year, he has reiterated many of the same baseless assertions, seizing in particular on mail-in voting, which he maintained (again without evidence) would lead to fraud.

Whether Trump realized it or not, he was engaging in something academics call priming.

He does not respect the Constitution or his constituents (for example, he has asked his advisors if he could get Republican guvs to order their states' electors to vote for him despite the popular vote) or not, hate everyone who thinks differently and believe a notorious conman, even it means the end of democracy here.

he's been lying to you and you've fallen for it
"Firing Sean Miller was just the spark this team needed." - CactusCat

ZippyZ

Law firm Porter Wright has decided to stop representing Trump in his frivolous lawsuits in PA. I guess even lawyers have a moral line that they will not cross.  Non-disclosure agreements with prostitutes and porn stars is one thing...undermining law, freedom, and democracy in America is another. The law firm was concerned that its reputation would be forever tainted.  Trump diminishes every person that assists him. And he gives them Covid.

FOOS

Quote from: ichi on November 13, 2020, 08:59:09 AM
This is an official release from the US DHS Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency

https://www.cisa.gov/news/2020/11/12/joint-statement-elections-infrastructure-government-coordinating-council-election

QuoteJOINT STATEMENT FROM ELECTIONS INFRASTRUCTURE GOVERNMENT COORDINATING COUNCIL & THE ELECTION INFRASTRUCTURE SECTOR COORDINATING EXECUTIVE COMMITTEES

Original release date: November 12, 2020

WASHINGTON – The members of Election Infrastructure Government Coordinating Council (GCC) Executive Committee – Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency (CISA) Assistant Director Bob Kolasky, U.S. Election Assistance Commission Chair Benjamin Hovland, National Association of Secretaries of State (NASS) President Maggie Toulouse Oliver, National Association of State Election Directors (NASED) President Lori Augino, and Escambia County (Florida) Supervisor of Elections David Stafford – and the members of the Election Infrastructure Sector Coordinating Council (SCC) – Chair Brian Hancock (Unisyn Voting Solutions), Vice Chair Sam Derheimer (Hart InterCivic), Chris Wlaschin (Election Systems & Software), Ericka Haas (Electronic Registration Information Center), and Maria Bianchi (Democracy Works) - released the following statement:

"The November 3rd election was the most secure in American history. Right now, across the country, election officials are reviewing and double checking the entire election process prior to finalizing the result.

"When states have close elections, many will recount ballots. All of the states with close results in the 2020 presidential race have paper records of each vote, allowing the ability to go back and count each ballot if necessary. This is an added benefit for security and resilience. This process allows for the identification and correction of any mistakes or errors. There is no evidence that any voting system deleted or lost votes, changed votes, or was in any way compromised.

"Other security measures like pre-election testing, state certification of voting equipment, and the U.S. Election Assistance Commission's (EAC) certification of voting equipment help to build additional confidence in the voting systems used in 2020.

"While we know there are many unfounded claims and opportunities for misinformation about the process of our elections, we can assure you we have the utmost confidence in the security and integrity of our elections, and you should too. When you have questions, turn to elections officials as trusted voices as they administer elections."

this is a Newsweek report on the claims being made by Trump/RNC lawyers

https://www.newsweek.com/trump-campaign-lawyer-contradicts-president-court-says-we-are-not-alleging-fraud-1547018

basically campaign lawyers stated that they are not alleging fraud

from a NYT article about what's going on inside the WH "Trump floats improbable survival scenarios as he ponders his future"

QuoteBy dominating the story of his exit from the White House, he hopes to keep his millions of supporters energized and engaged for whatever comes next.
The president has insisted to aides that he really defeated Joseph R. Biden Jr. on Nov. 3, but it is unclear whether he actually believes it. And instead of conducting discreet requests for recounts, Mr. Trump has made a series of spurious claims, seizing on conspiracies fanned on the internet.
The latest was on Thursday, when he falsely claimed on Twitter that Dominion voting machines switched hundreds of thousands of his votes to Mr. Biden, citing a report he had seen on the fringe network OANN, something even his supporters called ridiculous and a federal agency overseeing cybersecurity disavowed in a statement.
Advisers said his efforts were in keeping with one of his favorite pastimes: creating a controversy and watching to see how it plays out.
As a next step, Mr. Trump is talking seriously about announcing that he is planning to run again in 2024, aware that whether he actually does it or not, it will freeze an already-crowded field of possible Republican candidates. And, Republicans say, it will keep the wide support he showed even in defeat and could guarantee a lucrative book deal or speaking fees.

oh wait, that's lamestream media so it must be fake, the truth only comes from one man, everyone else, all them other motherfuckers are lying 'scumbags'

even these guys 'Abuse of the rule of law': 1,000 ex-judges, legal experts slam Trump's false claims of voter fraud

and finally, a 538 piece on how people were conditioned to believe the election was a fraud, how we were 'primed'

https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/americans-were-primed-to-believe-the-current-onslaught-of-disinformation/

QuoteEven before he was president, Trump was alleging election fraud without producing evidence. During his 2016 campaign he claimed the election was "rigged" in favor of Clinton, predicted widespread voter fraud and announced he would accept the results of the election only if he won. Over the past year, he has reiterated many of the same baseless assertions, seizing in particular on mail-in voting, which he maintained (again without evidence) would lead to fraud.

Whether Trump realized it or not, he was engaging in something academics call priming.

He does not respect the Constitution or his constituents (for example, he has asked his advisors if he could get Republican guvs to order their states' electors to vote for him despite the popular vote) or not, hate everyone who thinks differently and believe a notorious conman, even it means the end of democracy here.

he's been lying to you and you've fallen for it

Don the Con

TucsonTruckStop

Anyone who says Dems did not cheat are stupid as hell or they are lying.
Biden, the would-be oldest President in US history, received 15 million more votes than Obama, while losing in almost every bell-weather county across the country. That's never been done in history.

Biden underperformed Hillary Clintons totals in every urban county in the US....
but outperformed her in in the metro areas of Georgia, Michigan, Wisconsin and Pennsylvania; 4 of the states that just so happen suspended their counting the night of the election....Hmmm

Trump gained more than 10 million more votes than 2016; received record support by minorities; and over-performed in most counties.

In big cities run by Dems, more people voted than registered voters....Hmmm

The Dominion voting machines have somehow disappeared...Hmmm

It will all come out when it goes to the SCOTUS.


Jdmarti

No dought pac, lots of cheating.
Justice needs to be served  biden should not be aloud to be president, if they let them dems get away with it  they will continue  this for years to come.

Little George

Let me propose a question.

We know 'WE the PEOPLE' cannot trust our government or the courts! So that aside.

IF Trump does flip a state or two, BUT Biden still wins, will every one just admit the corruption and agree to do something about it?

IF Trump does flip PA, MI, GA, and any other states and remains President, will everyone just accept it and 'move on'?

The fact that Trump got more votes than any other candidate in history is one thing, but the thought that as he did that, that Biden got more? Or that Biden got more than Obama? That is absolutely NOT believable in my thought process!

If Trump cannot flip it, so be it. If he does, can we really just move on?

KansasCityCats

First of all, this election is over. The minions that won admit defeat are still donating money to try and salvage a state or two, which won't make a difference in the end.

Second, the BLM movement is the reason that the urban/rural sides have a huge discrepancy in the voting this year. Americans were forced to "take sides" and we know where the hillbillies stand.

Third, we all know that there's meddling within the voting process in every election. The system is broken. If you don't like it, push for socialism; it works in non dysfunctional countries like Sweden...

Little George

Quote from: KansasCityCats on November 27, 2020, 01:39:12 PM
First of all, this election is over. The minions that won admit defeat are still donating money to try and salvage a state or two, which won't make a difference in the end.

Second, the BLM movement is the reason that the urban/rural sides have a huge discrepancy in the voting this year. Americans were forced to "take sides" and we know where the hillbillies stand.

Election is NOT over until all states are certified and legal matters are settled.

Interesting that in Philly and Wayne County MI there were more votes than registered voters. Add in Wisconsin as all three states had big vote dumps between 2 and 5 am when counting was supposedly not happening. Interesting to me either way. NO way in hell Biden surpassed Obama in votes!


Third, we all know that there's meddling within the voting process in every election. The system is broken. If you don't like it, push for socialism; it works in non dysfunctional countries like Sweden...

KansasCityCats

He didn't surpass anybody's records, in terms of "percentage of votes". More people turned out to vote because both candidates have Americans that want to vote AGAINST the other candidate.


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