To those supporting Joe Biden

[Aokay]

And let's not forget everyone's favorite - suggesting we drop a nuclear weapon on a hurricane.  Pure genius; pure gold

Surprised you are not pulling for your fellow Catholic, Aokay

You tossed out any credibility you had with 'waste not, want not".....  wow.  I was starting to think you might be reasonable.  Amazing anyone could think that was even a remotely good idea.... "holy" shit

"And let's not forget everyone's favorite - suggesting we drop a nuclear weapon on a hurricane.  Pure genius; pure gold"

Hey, we've got a stockpile . . . waste not want not.

"Surprised you are not pulling for your fellow Catholic, Aokay"

Unlike the Creepy One, I adhere to the full list of Church teachings. It's the main reason, I could not, in good conscience, vote for any person that supported or promoted the taking of unborn lives. I'm going to have a tough enough time as it is when I stand before God: without adding aiding and abetting the abortion industry to my list of sins.

I'm more than a little surprised you weren't able to sense the sarcasm dripping from that answer? My reply was outrageous, and had zero sincerity attached. As an aside, your statement, siting a suggestion made, quite possibly as a trolling measure, hardly merited a response. Remind me again the exact number of weather-related nuclear bombs authorized by Trump to be set off in the upper atmosphere to counter dangerous weather patterns?

Which, in your estimation, is more important--actions or words? Me, I've always tended to afford the greatest amount of weight to a person's actions. That's why I had no use for Obama and support Trump. The latter made this country money, the former shipped away billions to Iran, a nation that hates our guts and would revel in our demise.

[Aokay]

WTF ever happened to "thou shall not kill"?  What a hypocritical religion. Don't kill unborn babies, but nuke the **** out of an entire nation.

It's like the bipartisan system: pick and choose when you want to follow the "rules".

"WTF ever happened to "thou shall not kill"? 

This response is a real headscratcher.

For starters, nothing happened to the fifth commandment, it's still in place and as valid today as it ever was.

"What a hypocritical religion."

What religion are you referring to? None that I'm aware of. No major religion, and for that matter any religion at all, would promote the mass destruction of an entire nation. Killing the unborn, and the mass murder of the born, are both grave sins and should be condemned by anyone with a respect for human life.

[Aokay]

And let's not forget everyone's favorite - suggesting we drop a nuclear weapon on a hurricane.  Pure genius; pure gold

Surprised you are not pulling for your fellow Catholic, Aokay

You tossed out any credibility you had with 'waste not, want not".....  wow.  I was starting to think you might be reasonable.  Amazing anyone could think that was even a remotely good idea.... "holy" shit

"And let's not forget everyone's favorite - suggesting we drop a nuclear weapon on a hurricane.  Pure genius; pure gold"

Hey, we've got a stockpile . . . waste not want not.

"Surprised you are not pulling for your fellow Catholic, Aokay"

Unlike the Creepy One, I adhere to the full list of Church teachings. It's the main reason, I could not, in good conscience, vote for any person that supported or promoted the taking of unborn lives. I'm going to have a tough enough time as it is when I stand before God: without adding aiding and abetting the abortion industry to my list of sins.

I'm more than a little surprised you weren't able to sense the sarcasm dripping from that answer? My reply was outrageous, and had zero sincerity attached. As an aside, your statement, siting a suggestion made, quite possibly as a trolling measure, hardly merited a response. Remind me again the exact number of weather-related nuclear bombs authorized by Trump to be set off in the upper atmosphere to counter dangerous weather patterns?

Which, in your estimation, is more important--actions or words? Me, I've always tended to afford the greatest amount of weight to a person's actions. That's why I had no use for Obama and support Trump. The latter made this country money, the former shipped away billions to Iran, a nation that hates our guts and would revel in our demise.

Siting should have read, citing -- my bad.

[KansasCityCats]

I think it's pretty obvious that our country has millions of citizens that support our troops AND the church. The fifth commandment cannot coexist with the second amendment.

If anybody believes otherwise, they don't understand the purpose and/or intent of weaponry: to KILL.

[Aokay]

I think it's pretty obvious that our country has millions of citizens that support our troops AND the church. The fifth commandment cannot coexist with the second amendment.

If anybody believes otherwise, they don't understand the purpose and/or intent of weaponry: to KILL.

"The fifth commandment cannot coexist with the second amendment."

It can and it does.

In accordance with the US Constitution, and common sense, the Catholic Church affirms that individuals have the right to defend themselves, and their loved ones, from imminent danger. That is best done with weapons capable of deterring the would be assailant, or stopping them in their tracks. Additionally, the Church speaks to the issue of just wars--again using the principle of self defense. The harsh reality of life is that good people are sometimes forced to combat the Hitlers of the world, to defend their freedoms and way of life by using lethal measures. This should be as obvious as the nose on people's faces, but clearly it's not. And just to be clear, the Church in no way condones murder. Knowing the distinction between killing and murder is critical to understanding the reasoning behind the aforementioned Church teachings, and the well-thought-out Second Amendment.

[Little George]

I think it's pretty obvious that our country has millions of citizens that support our troops AND the church. The fifth commandment cannot coexist with the second amendment.

If anybody believes otherwise, they don't understand the purpose and/or intent of weaponry: to KILL.

"The fifth commandment cannot coexist with the second amendment."

It can and it does.

In accordance with the US Constitution, and common sense, the Catholic Church affirms that individuals have the right to defend themselves, and their loved ones, from imminent danger. That is best done with weapons capable of deterring the would be assailant, or stopping them in their tracks. Additionally, the Church speaks to the issue of just wars--again using the principle of self defense. The harsh reality of life is that good people are sometimes forced to combat the Hitlers of the world, to defend their freedoms and way of life by using lethal measures. This should be as obvious as the nose on people's faces, but clearly it's not. And just to be clear, the Church in no way condones murder. Knowing the distinction between killing and murder is critical to understanding the reasoning behind the aforementioned Church teachings, and the well-thought-out Second Amendment.

Well said!

[KansasCityCats]

That's a nice twist, however invading countries on the other side of world with heavily armed troops is hardly "defending" your local family/community from assailants that could be an imminent threat.

I completely understand your WWII argument (and understand why the US was involved a few other wars).  I can't envision a situation where Jesus would give Americans the green light to fight for oil...which is the primary reason that we've sent troops overseas throughout the past 20-30 years.  That's not a matter of lethal measure, that's just greed (and hypocrisy for those wearing crosses around their necks with automatic weapons in their hands).

[Aokay]

That's a nice twist, however invading countries on the other side of world with heavily armed troops is hardly "defending" your local family/community from assailants that could be an imminent threat.

I completely understand your WWII argument (and understand why the US was involved a few other wars).  I can't envision a situation where Jesus would give Americans the green light to fight for oil...which is the primary reason that we've sent troops overseas throughout the past 20-30 years.  That's not a matter of lethal measure, that's just greed (and hypocrisy for those wearing crosses around their necks with automatic weapons in their hands).

It wasn't a twist, it was a direct rebuttal of your claim that the Fifth Commandment and the 2nd Amendment can't coexist. I gave a perfectly rational explanation of why they do, in fact, sometimes work in tandem.

' . . . however invading countries on the other side of world with heavily armed troops is hardly "defending" your local family/community from assailants that could be an imminent threat."

Here, you have switched subjects. You are now arguing that not all wars are just, and to this we both agree. However, unjust wars do not negate the fact that there is such a thing as a just war. If you agree with that statement, then you must agree that there are times when the 2nd amendment, Catholic Church teaching, and the Fifth Commandment, are in fact, compatible.

As far as Jesus goes, there can be no doubt He'd prefer that all of humanity lived in peace -- that the killing of human beings, all of which are his creation, would cease and desist. Sadly, there are far too many people on this planet disinterested in Christ, His Church, and it's teachings. Our loss.

[Little George]

Why did the PEOPLE put that 2nd Amendment in there? 

To defend against the government! The government wanting to take that right away is NEVER a good end result.

Government controlled anything is NOT a good thing. The people holding office need to be put back in there place regardless of party. We do NOT serve them or work for them. They are supposed to be the People's servants. They need to firmly be reminded of that! That includes every single person in office regardless of party. That Second Amendment is all the People have if and when the government decides to take control of our very lives. They do this through government control benefits. Healthcare, food, utilities, education, and many other means.
You can see this happening in California  with their rolling blackouts already and then shutting off water for homes having visitors in excess of the unconstitutional dictation of how many people can be at your home.
Health care as well when they decide Your life is less important than someone else's. See the little boy from England where they refused him help and then refused him to come to America for help. That stuff does already happen here with older people. We see tons of money wasted on elected officials for their healthcare. The number one reason Obama care was wrong was the crap they give us and then make themselves exempt from it? Yes they did!
Education and jobs based on color and sex rather than qualifications. See the Biden selection for Vice on that one is evidence enough. Sad that he stooped so low. Harris is likely the worst possible choice he could have made.
Many other areas of your life they will control IF the PEOPLE do not real them in soon!

Our Congress is maybe the most corrupt organization in our country right now. Time for everyone to take a good long look and ponder on that. Not too long or it could be too late.

[KansasCityCats]

I absolutely stayed on topic. Artillery was invented to kill. The fifth commandment is pretty straight forward with its intent: don't kill.

As far as Kamala goes...Biden arguably chose her to bring in Minority votes (and it worked, considering he has the most popular votes in history).

The system is flawed. And if there's a hell, we're all going there for preaching "god and country" in the same phrase.