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Title: Holy smokes ESPN edits wire tap story & media is starting to turn on them
Post by: WILD on February 26, 2018, 12:19:43 AM
ESPN has made a correction to their story about the Miller-Dawkins conversation.

The correction reflects that the alleged conversation took place in Spring of 2016, not Spring of 2017

The big problem with this is that the FBI wire taps didn't start until 2017. Busted!

https://twitter.com/AriA1exander/status/967996109925658625
Title: Re: Holy smokes ESPN edits story on wire taps & makes a big mistake
Post by: Paper_Bag on February 26, 2018, 12:25:58 AM
So, if this were true, it would mean that there is no recording of Miller and Dawkins discussing a payment to Deandre, correct?
Title: Re: Holy smokes ESPN edits story on wire taps & makes a big mistake
Post by: hawaii wildcat on February 26, 2018, 12:29:11 AM
This is totally insane.  I HOPE THAT U OF A ATTORNEYS ARE ON THIS AND PLAN TO TAKE SOME ACTION.  SO UNFAIR!!!
Title: Re: Holy smokes ESPN edits story on wire taps & makes a big mistake
Post by: WILD on February 26, 2018, 12:39:55 AM
Here it is folks. The first time the prospect of paying coaches at Arizona was raises was February 2017. Ayton signed his LOI to Arizona in November 2016. It just keeps getting better!

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Title: Re: Holy smokes ESPN edits story on wire taps & makes a big mistake
Post by: CatinBama on February 26, 2018, 06:37:49 AM
Even though this was the first mention of coaches being paid, dosent mean that any players werent previously paid to be steered to UA. Good news with this is if there was wiretaps/other evidemce prior to this, then you would think Miller would've have already been indicted and brought to light before Book was brought in. Until the fbi itself releases any other information we can only speculate that Book had more wrongdoing then Miller at any point in this until some actual charges prove otherwise.
Title: Re: Holy smokes ESPN edits story on wire taps & makes a big mistake
Post by: CatinBama on February 26, 2018, 07:01:04 AM
Random question, does anyone know how long Miller would be allowed to sit out/be placed on leave if the fbi doesn't produce anything further to the public or espn decided to stick with their sources, before he or ua would have to make a decision on his long term employment status
Title: Re: Holy smokes ESPN edits story on wire taps & makes a big mistake
Post by: SteveKerrFan on February 26, 2018, 07:18:11 AM
ESPN makes a mistake?  Shocking!
Title: Re: Holy smokes ESPN edits story on wire taps & makes a big mistake
Post by: Titan4Wildcats on February 26, 2018, 07:30:20 AM
It's starting to look like the story about how much Coach Miller can/would get from the UofA may turn into how much he can get from ESPN to ADD to his UofA income!  This is starting to look like a real circus and the demise of ESPN.  I wonder what the name of the new sports organization will be?
Title: Re: Holy smokes ESPN edits story on wire taps & makes a big mistake
Post by: Tucsandman on February 26, 2018, 08:50:19 AM
Wow, this is looking like ESPN brought to you by Dan Rather.
Title: Re: Holy smokes ESPN edits story on wire taps & makes a big mistake
Post by: jumpinjohnny on February 26, 2018, 09:31:13 AM
Is the FBI simply inept--or is it politically corrupt to the core? Inquiring minds need to know. How long before the DOJ intervenes?
Title: Re: Holy smokes ESPN edits story on wire taps & makes a big mistake
Post by: wc on February 26, 2018, 09:49:10 AM
Quote from: jumpinjohnny on February 26, 2018, 09:31:13 AM
Is the FBI simply inept--or is it politically corrupt to the core? Inquiring minds need to know. How long before the DOJ intervenes?
Federal Bureau of Ineptitude?  Their reputation for leaks, honesty, transparency,or integrity, definitely isn't the best as of late.
Title: Re: Holy smokes ESPN edits story on wire taps & makes a big mistake
Post by: broKeNbot on February 26, 2018, 12:46:36 PM
How long before this goes from sports news to national news...
Title: Re: Holy smokes ESPN edits wire tap story & media is starting to turn
Post by: |ᴘ|ʀ|ʏ|ᴍ|ᴇ| on February 26, 2018, 03:42:08 PM
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Title: Re: Holy smokes ESPN edits story on wire taps & makes a big mistake
Post by: WILD on February 26, 2018, 05:47:30 PM
247 Sports breaks down the issue of conflicting timelines in the ESPN report from Friday.

https://twitter.com/EvanDaniels/status/968279163961528320
Title: Re: Holy smokes ESPN edits story on wire taps & makes a big mistake
Post by: WILD on February 26, 2018, 06:42:19 PM
Another article on time frames not matching up
http://collegebasketball.nbcsports.com/2018/02/26/report-timeline-for-tapped-call-between-sean-miller-christian-dawkins-in-question/amp/?__twitter_impression=true
Title: Re: Holy smokes ESPN edits story on wire taps & makes a big mistake
Post by: Bob A on February 26, 2018, 07:01:08 PM
Hopefully this all turns out to be shoddy journalism and false allegations but it's already cost us one of our two recruits and I don't see how Miller is making himself look any less guilty by not showing up at practice today.
Title: Re: Holy smokes ESPN edits story on wire taps & makes a big mistake
Post by: Lutesguitar on February 26, 2018, 08:12:56 PM
Not one word from ESPN tonite, my instinct is they either got served with a cease and desist or got a call from the FBI requesting sources, it would explain Mark Schlamabachs extended silence...
Title: Re: Holy smokes ESPN edits story on wire taps & makes a big mistake
Post by: Mr. Zona on February 27, 2018, 12:55:19 PM
So last night I went through and read all of the official indictments against Dawkins, Book, Evans, etc (riveting stuff, let me tell ya). Mainly I was looking for one thing: any reference to the wiretaps and any associated dates.

After a bit of digging, I came across two references to the "Dawkins Wiretaps", one was in connection to Book and the other in connection to another school. Sure enough the dates mentioned are "in or around May of 2017" and "June 20, 2017".

This seems to squarely place the timeframe of the wiretaps in mid-2017, after Ayton as we all know committed in 2016. Unless there were multiple wiretap warrants placed on Dawkins' phone that spanned around a year, this doesn't seem to corroborate Schlabach's allegations at all.

Keeping my fingers crossed for some more good news!

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Links to the actual court documents are all in this SI report from last year: https://www.si.com/college-basketball/2017/09/29/what-we-know-about-each-school-fbi-investigation
Title: Re: Holy smokes ESPN edits story on wire taps & makes a big mistake
Post by: PBCatfan on February 27, 2018, 02:28:25 PM
The timeline thing is not only a major sticking point it is also one of the few ways the authors could have corroborated the story from Dawkins' lawyers. You can just type Deandre Ayton Signed LOI into google and you will find an article from Pascoe from November 2016 talking about Ayton SIGNING a LOI. That is all ESPN had to do to know their story had a big issue, they didn't do it, I say sue the shit outta them. Name Jay Bilas and Seth Greenberg in it too, those two turds shouldn't have been so quick to bury Miller. 
Title: Re: Holy smokes ESPN edits story on wire taps & makes a big mistake
Post by: WILD on February 27, 2018, 02:38:36 PM
The Miller wiretap report isn't anywhere close to the smoking gun that it initially seemed. (At least not yet, anyway.) Check out Ringer article in tweet below

https://twitter.com/ringer/status/968591594868928513

Title: Re: Holy smokes ESPN edits story on wire taps & makes a big mistake
Post by: jumpinjohnny on February 27, 2018, 05:14:44 PM
Quote from: Bob A on February 26, 2018, 07:01:08 PM
Hopefully this all turns out to be shoddy journalism and false allegations but it's already cost us one of our two recruits and I don't see how Miller is making himself look any less guilty by not showing up at practice today.

Maybe it wasn't voluntary?