To those supporting Joe Biden

[Aokay]

This country will tear itself apart until we pull away from a two party system.  This thread has brought more hatred (and posts) than any sports over the past few years...and from a website that's meant to bring people together.

Both candidates are terrible representatives for this country.  The difference is that Trump is proud about being hated on an international level.

In reference to the religious aspect: Christians have killed more people in the history of mankind...unquestionably more than any other group of terrorists.  They are corrupt, gullible and greedy.  It's a joke to claim that you care about unborn fetuses (that haven't experienced one second of life), yet you can allow radicals to purchase fully-automatic weapons to blow away large groups of innocent adults (who have FAMILIES).

I'm just counting down the days until the next Civil War...

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Re: To those supporting Joe Biden
« Reply #55 on: Today at 08:16:49 AM »

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"This country will tear itself apart until we pull away from a two party system." 

That's fine with me, but speaking practically, how can we make that work? I seriously doubt this idea is possible, but I'd jump on board if a solid plan surfaced.


"This thread has brought more hatred (and posts) than any sports over the past few years"

Speaking for myself, there was no hatred involved. The thread started with a condemnation of Biden, some disagreed, I agreed with Little George. Besides, I love to debate, and would be perfectly happy taking either side of most any topic.

"...and from a website that's meant to bring people together."

I thought the site was established to inform the fans (and enemies) of Wildcat sports what was up. If people came together, that's great, but I'm fine with gathering the information, commenting occasionally, and rolling on my own. Fans don't have to agree, or get along, to be true fans, so I challenge your claim to know what the founders of this site had in mind at the inception. If they say you're right and I'm wrong, it's no skin off my nose, life goes on.


"Both candidates are terrible representatives for this country.  The difference is that Trump is proud about being hated on an international level."

And now you show your progressive colors and spout this crap. Trump is proud of America, it's military, which he has helped restore to strength through trillions of dollars of funding, the first responders, and hard working men and women in all walks of life. If we are hated on an international level, it's by the wealthy globalists, the progressive parties in Europe who are losing ground to the populist movement, the regimes in Iran, and China, and the progressive press, which together, I consider a great plus.

"In reference to the religious aspect: Christians have killed more people in the history of mankind...unquestionably more than any other group of terrorists.

This is pure, unadulterated, baseless horseshit. The greatest number of forced deaths came at the hands of communist and facist regimes, by men named Stalin, Pol Pot, Hitler, Musselini, etc ... I can guarengoddamtee you these were not the works of any true Christian organization. And if you're going to hold up the crusades as the basis for your argument, that was a war between Christianity and the Muslim world, for control of Europe, and even those numbers pale in comparison to the
deaths of innocent communist citizens.

"They are corrupt, gullible and greedy." (Meaning Christians)

You're personally familiar with every Christian? You don't know me, because if you did, you'd know I'm none of those things.

"It's a joke to claim that you care about unborn fetuses"

It's anything but a joke, The right to life is the most basic of all the rights our constitution grants us. Human life begins at conception, that's an irrefutable, scientific fact, not an opinion. Once that life has been created, it should, and hopefully will be in the near future, granted all the same rights of the born.


"( . . . that haven't experienced one second of life),"

An unscientific statement meant to mislead the uninformed and pardon the selfish act. Do you have any idea what the development of a nine-week old human being entails? If you did, I doubt very much you would have made this statement.

"yet you can allow radicals to purchase fully-automatic weapons to blow away large groups of innocent adults (who have FAMILIES)."

This is ignorant on at least two fronts. If you meant to say I approve of radicals owning fully-automatic weapons, you'd be wrong for these reasons: I don't have a say in who can legally purchase firearms, that's a matter for the government agencies that regulate gun sales. AND, this is a HUGE AND, fully-automatic weapons are 100% illegal, no one is permitted to own or sell them. FYI, these particular weapons haven't been used in any of the mass shootings. Words matter, just as facts do. You should exhibit more diligence with both. Lastly, making the jump from supporting the lives of the unborn, and suggesting that the issues of gun control and abortion are like subjects is ludicrous. Something like fifty-million unborn lives have been aborted since Roe v Wade. Remind me how many live have been lost as a result of mass shootings over the same time period. Do you know the numbers? They're not what most people might think, unless they needed a talking point to attack the second amendment. BTW, I don't own any guns, haven't since our children were born in the 80s.

"I'm just counting down the days until the next Civil War..."

If the left doesn't disavow the anarchists burning down our cities, the city councils wanting to defund the police, and the asswipes that attack conservatives as they eat in public, many of them elderly, or partake in Trump rallies, or wear MAGA hats, your countdown will be short. It's not the conservatives who drew first blood, it was people like Maxine Waters, and numb nuts, like the tough-guy actor, Little Bobby Dinero, who promoted violence just moments after Trump took office. That shit got old, fast. People will only be pushed around for so long before they defend themselves. We (conservatives) won a legitimate election in 2016, that much of  the left has yet to accept There's a very good chance Trump will be reelected. If he is, and the left chooses not to accept the results a second time, and pull the same tired shit again, it ain't gonna be pretty. I, for one, hope that the anarchists, should they start burning and pillaging again, will be dealt with swiftly and decisively. If Trump loses, which I recognize is a distinct possibility, I'll make myself a bowl of oatmeal, take a walk, have a cup of coffee, and maybe a few oreos, go online, take a nap, and prepare dinner: same old same old. What I won't be doing is acting like a spoiled child who was told no and went into a tantrum because I didn't get my way. Which is, for most, the conservative way.

[Aokay]

This thread has brought more hatred (and posts) than any sports over the past few years.

Maybe I'm just slow (ok, it's more of a likelihood), but I've felt very little hatred in this thread. It's mostly been a good exchange of ideas.

You're not slow, no matter how much you'd like to be. You were spot on.

[KansasCityCats]

True. This thread is 1,000x more respectful than any public forum (which is the reason that I strictly stick to sports on the internet).

I'm just frustrated that the people in our country are forced to choose either "left" or "right". If you're inbetween (or have any glimmer of an independent mind), you're thrown out as an outcast.

Perhaps one day, a Democrat will have the guts to cut taxes, or a republican will be open to the idea of limiting (not banning) excessive firearms.

Whatever...these two guys are somehow the best options for us to succeed as a country. What a sad time to be alive in the US.

[Little George]

True. This thread is 1,000x more respectful than any public forum (which is the reason that I strictly stick to sports on the internet).

I'm just frustrated that the people in our country are forced to choose either "left" or "right". If you're inbetween (or have any glimmer of an independent mind), you're thrown out as an outcast.

Perhaps one day, a Democrat will have the guts to cut taxes, or a republican will be open to the idea of limiting (not banning) excessive firearms.

Whatever...these two guys are somehow the best options for us to succeed as a country. What a sad time to be alive in the US.

KC, the system can only work when both parties come to the table "representing the people" not seeking power, and negotiate what is better for the nation as a whole! Seems the right veered right and the left took a sharp 90 degree left and off the table. Trump may be the only guy somewhat in the middle right now and he gets hatred from both sides. I support him because I do NOT support extreme pulls left or right. I support him because there hasn't been a good candidate since Perot from either party and years before that since the last good one. Where do they come up with the trash running for office? It is like the bottom of the barrel retards all running to control the government. At the current rate there will be a civil war, or something close because of the divide. It did not start with Trump!

[KansasCityCats]

I respectfully disagree. Every other word that comes out of his mouth is "Democrats". Not in a positive tone, but to blame "the other guys" for every wrongdoing in this country.

There was no "us versus them" prior to his term.

Totally agree with your ideals to represent the people, though. Hoping we overcome this one day...in the near future.

[Little George]

We can respectfully disagree KC. No harm done.

[FOOS]

 One thing is certain.  In a few weeks we'll find out if Trump is one and done or playing PG for 4 more years

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One thing is certain.  In a few weeks we'll find out if Trump is one and done or playing PG for 4 more years

Well played FOOS, well played.
lol

[Aokay]

I respectfully disagree. Every other word that comes out of his mouth is "Democrats". Not in a positive tone, but to blame "the other guys" for every wrongdoing in this country.

There was no "us versus them" prior to his term.

Totally agree with your ideals to represent the people, though. Hoping we overcome this one day...in the near future.

"There was no "us versus them" prior to his term."

Clearly you have spent very little time observing conservative websites. On our end, it always feels like it's us against the world: the human secularists, globalists, and the mainstream media. Trump was elected for this very reason. Millions of conservatives felt disenfranchised, and still do.

[KansasCityCats]

I definitely avoid any political websites, as they're typically full of internet trolls that love pushing each others' buttons, rather than reasonably discussing world views.

I'm glad that you feel that way.  It shows that Trump isn't a true representative of the conservative parties, and that everybody is striving for our country to change for the better.  Hopefully we can find a candidate that will positively change the US in another 4 years.