Arizona overcomes hot shooting Huskies 75-72 in comeback win

[Jdmarti]

I am excited for Arizona  to win on the road I hope it leads to confidence  moving forward not a perfect game but a win an Arizona.  survived   washington hot shooting from deep I hope josh green can get out of this shooting funk he is in an zeke had rear off night it helps when Arizonas bench scores 25 points.

[arxpert]

Happy for the win, but there are still so many issues with this team (Yes, you can be happy and still be critical).
1. Millers love for Gettings will be this years downfall.
2. Defense is disorganized
3. Zero pressure on 3 point shooters (and teams know it)
4. Late game tightness/ afraid to take a shot (thank goodness for Baker last night)
5. Taking too many 3's 5 feet behind the arc, which we rarely make (if we take a good 3, it usually goes in)
6. Not enough penetration
7. Stone defending out on the perimeter and positioning/running offense through him (cant have one of our worst players handling the ball the most)
8. Miller needs to coach more and yell/teach less on the bench (draw up plays and counter what the other coach is doing during time-stoppages (teaching is for practice).
9. Execution after timeouts

I was at the game last night and almost none of the things on your list happened (at least last night).
1. Millers love for Gettings will be this years downfall. Gettings was incredibly valuable last night at exploiting the zone at the high post and making shot after shot from the elbow. Zeke couldn't hit any of those shots last night. Gettings has flaws, but also provides value with spacing and also attacking the zone
2. Defense is disorganized. Defense is plenty organized and has shown signs of being very good. Last night our defense was excellent - especially in the post. Defense however is a function of effort and this team doesn't consistently put in that effort.
3. Zero pressure on 3 point shooters (and teams know it)Every defense has a weakness. The pack line defense is weaker against the 3. Sometimes the team needs more effort on closeouts, but it is really more a function of the type of defense. Last night the Huskies (who are not a good 3 point shooting team) just were really hot and hit their outside shots and you have to live with that when that happens - or switch to another defense. However, most zones are also weak against the 3...
4. Late game tightness/ afraid to take a shot (thank goodness for Baker last night). Other than Gettings and Smith missing some late free throws, the team did not play tight and was not afraid to take a shot in the last. In fact, we played far better in the last 5 minutes of the game (unlike the ASU game).
5. Taking too many 3's 5 feet behind the arc, which we rarely make (if we take a good 3, it usually goes in). Mannion and Smith are sometimes guilty of this. I am ok with Mannion doing it on occasion as it helps open up his game if the defender has to extend further. Smith should never do it.
6. Not enough penetration. Washington's defense is built to prevent penetration and it did last night. Josh Green had a subpar game as lanes to penetrate were not there at all and he is not much of a set shooter. I haven't seen this as being a major problem of this team this year (there are a few personnel groups that are not strong penetrators).
7. Stone defending out on the perimeter and positioning/running offense through him (cant have one of our worst players handling the ball the most)The post players defense was great last night. The post defense down low on Stewart was great. The hedging by the bigs including Stone was incredibly disruptive to UW and directly resulted in a number of turnovers and they also did a ton of double teaming and having the guards dig down on the UW post player. Stone was good last night. Yes he is a little bit slow and clumsy at times, but the positives far outweigh the negatives.
8. Miller needs to coach more and yell/teach less on the bench (draw up plays and counter what the other coach is doing during time-stoppages (teaching is for practice).see #9
9. Execution after timeoutsMiller did a good job with timeouts last night and the Cats executed well out of those timeouts. He did a really good job managing player rotations, especially in the first half with all the foul trouble.

Very solid and concise rebuttal. There is so much overreaction and so much bitterness whenever the team stumbles.

Huge win for this team. I reject anyone who diminishes this marquee win. The myth of this team not being able to win a close game or not being able to win on the road is so easily debunked that it makes all the critics efforts look embarrassing for the amount of time and energy they waste on being rude to the program in the name of being upset at a loss which might hurt in the moment, but is not worth the nuclear meltdowns.

Some people say "its just one win guys, chill", but also say coaches need to be fired, players have to be banished for 1 loss. Extremely hypocritical and only said when it fits their narratives. I'm super impressed tonight all around including the stifling of Isaiah Stewart on D. Incredible game plan by Miller.

This easily emulated what a Round of 32 1v8 or 1v5 Sweet 16 could look like vs a non conference team with 1-3 star players on it. This win was the beginning of something special.

Miller the right calls again and this time the team hit the shots. It's just that simple. He almost always leads this team to water, but whether they drink or not is not up to CSM. Players win and lose the games on their execution and shot making (make or miss league)... unless a coach literally gets enough technical fouls to fuck it up which almost never happens.

[KansasCityCats]

The difference in UW "choking" and Arizona winning is that our freshmen finished the game strong...their big-time players were smothered by our defense...which was really good.

As Zoe mentioned, Gettings played a big role by exploiting the zone and hitting the jumpers from the top of the key.  Miller deserves a ton of credit for putting him in the game with 4 fouls and 9 minutes left to play.  The game-plan was to put a nice mid-range shooter in...because Zeke and our other bigs were struggling from that part of the court.

Dylan couldn't shoot after the 1st bucket of the game, but he handled the ball better than any game that I could remember.  5 assists compensates for a few of the mistakes...but he still needs to hit more shots from inside the arc.

Ira was huge on the glass and on defense.  Without him, there's no way UW gets into foul trouble and loses this game.

Green also had poor stat lines, yet his defense and ball movement kept the Huskies on their toes.  I was happy with his efforts and his offense will pick up soon.

Although Wazzu won 4 games in the Pac, they looked sloppy in Wednesday's victory.  Injury is the only thing that prevents us from sweeping on the road this weekend.  BTFD!

[TucsonTruckStop]

I was at the game last night and almost none of the things on your list happened (at least last night).
1. Millers love for Gettings will be this years downfall. Gettings was incredibly valuable last night at exploiting the zone at the high post and making shot after shot from the elbow. Zeke couldn't hit any of those shots last night. Gettings has flaws, but also provides value with spacing and also attacking the zone

You don't know the game as well as you think then; and being at the game does not enhance your knowledge. People like you just concentrate on offense and whether the ball goes in the basket.
Gettings: Cool he made a couple mid-range shots. But he places zero pressure on the defense because they are not concerned with him around the basket. When you know what the opponent is going to do, it is that much easier to guard them. Also, his value spacing the court is setting up behind the arc. Do you know how many shots he had behind the arc? He was 0-1 and he is making 0.5 3PT/GM.
These are his stats (team rank):
OFF.RTG (10th) and DEF.RTG (9th)
FGM/G: 2.1
3PTA/G: 1.2
3PTM/G: 0.5
FTM/G: 1.1
AS/G: 0.8
TO/G: 1.3 (Worst on team)
OREB/G: 0.9
DREB/G: 1.9
ST/G: 0.6
BL/G: 0.7
...and you think the decision to put him in a spot that gets that many touches is not problematic?

[TucsonTruckStop]

Arx: you have already proven you have zero credibility.

[TucsonTruckStop]

Too many of you yahoo's speak in hyperbole, rather than logic or facts.

[arxpert]

You are speaking on outliers and using numbers to lie to fit your narrative and I'm actually starting to think you are just an ASU troll hanging out on a UofA forum.

[TucsonTruckStop]

Happy for the win, but there are still so many issues with this team (Yes, you can be happy and still be critical).
1. Millers love for Gettings will be this years downfall.
2. Defense is disorganized
3. Zero pressure on 3 point shooters (and teams know it)
4. Late game tightness/ afraid to take a shot (thank goodness for Baker last night)
5. Taking too many 3's 5 feet behind the arc, which we rarely make (if we take a good 3, it usually goes in)
6. Not enough penetration
7. Stone defending out on the perimeter and positioning/running offense through him (cant have one of our worst players handling the ball the most)
8. Miller needs to coach more and yell/teach less on the bench (draw up plays and counter what the other coach is doing during time-stoppages (teaching is for practice).
9. Execution after timeouts

I was at the game last night and almost none of the things on your list happened (at least last night).
1. Millers love for Gettings will be this years downfall. Gettings was incredibly valuable last night at exploiting the zone at the high post and making shot after shot from the elbow. Zeke couldn't hit any of those shots last night. Gettings has flaws, but also provides value with spacing and also attacking the zone
2. Defense is disorganized. Defense is plenty organized and has shown signs of being very good. Last night our defense was excellent - especially in the post. Defense however is a function of effort and this team doesn't consistently put in that effort.
3. Zero pressure on 3 point shooters (and teams know it)Every defense has a weakness. The pack line defense is weaker against the 3. Sometimes the team needs more effort on closeouts, but it is really more a function of the type of defense. Last night the Huskies (who are not a good 3 point shooting team) just were really hot and hit their outside shots and you have to live with that when that happens - or switch to another defense. However, most zones are also weak against the 3...
4. Late game tightness/ afraid to take a shot (thank goodness for Baker last night). Other than Gettings and Smith missing some late free throws, the team did not play tight and was not afraid to take a shot in the last. In fact, we played far better in the last 5 minutes of the game (unlike the ASU game).
5. Taking too many 3's 5 feet behind the arc, which we rarely make (if we take a good 3, it usually goes in). Mannion and Smith are sometimes guilty of this. I am ok with Mannion doing it on occasion as it helps open up his game if the defender has to extend further. Smith should never do it.
6. Not enough penetration. Washington's defense is built to prevent penetration and it did last night. Josh Green had a subpar game as lanes to penetrate were not there at all and he is not much of a set shooter. I haven't seen this as being a major problem of this team this year (there are a few personnel groups that are not strong penetrators).
7. Stone defending out on the perimeter and positioning/running offense through him (cant have one of our worst players handling the ball the most)The post players defense was great last night. The post defense down low on Stewart was great. The hedging by the bigs including Stone was incredibly disruptive to UW and directly resulted in a number of turnovers and they also did a ton of double teaming and having the guards dig down on the UW post player. Stone was good last night. Yes he is a little bit slow and clumsy at times, but the positives far outweigh the negatives.
8. Miller needs to coach more and yell/teach less on the bench (draw up plays and counter what the other coach is doing during time-stoppages (teaching is for practice).see #9
9. Execution after timeoutsMiller did a good job with timeouts last night and the Cats executed well out of those timeouts. He did a really good job managing player rotations, especially in the first half with all the foul trouble.

2. You were at the game and did not notice our defense struggling whether to switch or not? Many times 2 guy's went with 1 guy leaving the other wide open?
3. So, you agree with me here.
4. I'll post the play by play of the last few minutes. I recommend you watch the end of our games again.
5. You agree with me again.
6. You agree with me again, but you're crazy if you think we do not pass around the perimeter too often.
7. This is about Stone, not the team. He got beat repeatedly and his man shot 3-pointers without a second thought.
His positives: Decent FT and 3PT shooter (even though its 1 3PT per game)
His negatives: No hands = turnovers and butter-fingers; Cant jump = repeatedly lets his man out jump him for a rebound or keeping ball alive; Plays below the rim = Cannot finish around the rim unless he's wide open; He is slow on defense, running the floor and getting loose balls; He is a PF and does not rebound.
8. You did not answer the question.
9. This has been a problem since he's been here. I'll post the possessions after his timeouts.

[TucsonTruckStop]

You are speaking on outliers and using numbers to lie to fit your narrative and I'm actually starting to think you are just an ASU troll hanging out on a UofA forum.

Whatever helps you sleep at night.

[TucsonTruckStop]

Late-game Arizona possessions (last 4 minutes)
Missed long 3
0-2 FTs
Missed 3
TO
Missed jumper
1-2 FTs
Bakers huge made 3
1-2 FTs
Missed front-end FT