Arizona overcomes hot shooting Huskies 75-72 in comeback win

Started by WILD, January 30, 2020, 11:14:29 PM

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TucsonTruckStop

Possessions following Official and Arizona Time-outs:
Time / score / possession....and then the score roughly 2 minutes later
7:16 / 21-16 / AZ made shot
5:08 / 26-22
Half
20:00 / 36-33 / no shot
17:42 / 39-39

17:00 / 39-42 / AZ missed shot
14:50 / 41-50

14:28 / 44-50 / UW made 3
12:26 / 52-57

4:56 / 64-69 / AZ missed long 3
2:42 / 70-69

TO to review
3:59 / 70-69 / AZ missed long 3
1:45 / 70-72

2012Cat

Quote from: PacSouthwest on January 31, 2020, 10:51:31 PM
Possessions following Official and Arizona Time-outs:
Time / score / possession....and then the score roughly 2 minutes later
7:16 / 21-16 / AZ made shot
5:08 / 26-22
Half
20:00 / 36-33 / no shot
17:42 / 39-39

17:00 / 39-42 / AZ missed shot
14:50 / 41-50

14:28 / 44-50 / UW made 3
12:26 / 52-57

4:56 / 64-69 / AZ missed long 3
2:42 / 70-69

TO to review
3:59 / 70-69 / AZ missed long 3
1:45 / 70-72

Been saying for years that miller is the absolute worst at calling a play out of timeout. And burns timeouts just as bad as Kevin O'Neil

KansasCityCats

UW never took advantage of Arizona's switches. Our length affected their rhythm and if it weren't for their outside shooting (which was completely out of character), we would have blown them out.

UW is a long team that couldn't earn points in the paint, despite having guys like Gettings in the post. Our FT shooting started 15/17, which is a big reason that we won.

The late misses didn't lose the game because the 40-minute game plan was successful.

2012Cat

Quote from: KansasCityCats on February 01, 2020, 06:51:20 AM
UW never took advantage of Arizona's switches. Our length affected their rhythm and if it weren't for their outside shooting (which was completely out of character), we would have blown them out.

UW is a long team that couldn't earn points in the paint, despite having guys like Gettings in the post. Our FT shooting started 15/17, which is a big reason that we won.

The late misses didn't lose the game because the 40-minute game plan was successful.

The late game misses didn't cost us the game because Washington absolutely fell apart. They had 3 possessions to tie or take the lead and had 2 turnovers and one contested deep 3 way too early in the shot clock

zoescout

Quote from: PacSouthwest on January 31, 2020, 09:26:10 PM
Quote from: zoescout on January 31, 2020, 10:42:27 AM
Quote from: PacSouthwest on January 31, 2020, 09:59:16 AM
I was at the game last night and almost none of the things on your list happened (at least last night).
1. Millers love for Gettings will be this years downfall. Gettings was incredibly valuable last night at exploiting the zone at the high post and making shot after shot from the elbow. Zeke couldn't hit any of those shots last night. Gettings has flaws, but also provides value with spacing and also attacking the zone
You don't know the game as well as you think then; and being at the game does not enhance your knowledge. People like you just concentrate on offense and whether the ball goes in the basket.
Gettings: Cool he made a couple mid-range shots. But he places zero pressure on the defense because they are not concerned with him around the basket. When you know what the opponent is going to do, it is that much easier to guard them. Also, his value spacing the court is setting up behind the arc. Do you know how many shots he had behind the arc? He was 0-1 and he is making 0.5 3PT/GM.
These are his stats (team rank):
OFF.RTG (10th) and DEF.RTG (9th)
FGM/G: 2.1
3PTA/G: 1.2
3PTM/G: 0.5
FTM/G: 1.1
AS/G: 0.8
TO/G: 1.3 (Worst on team)
OREB/G: 0.9
DREB/G: 1.9
ST/G: 0.6
BL/G: 0.7
...and you think the decision to put him in a spot that gets that many touches is not problematic?

First, seeing a game live vs on television does help you get a better feel and analysis. You can feel and see the crowd and flow of game better. You can also see things that would be off camera that all play into what is happening - and in this game there was a lot happening off camera!

Second, I absolutely do not focus on offense only - defense is every bit as important.

Third, his offense contribution in the UW game was much more than "he made a couple of mid-range shots". He hit 5 jumpers and scored 13 points. That was a major contribution even if you are just looking at the stats. It was even more if you watch what he did on offense, even when he didn't get the ball. He has the highest 3 point percentage on the team and that forces the defense to defend the 3. It doesn't matter that he doesn't take a large volume of shots - in fact that might be the best reason to have him on the floor! He is a role player and seems fine in just taking what is available. He is a smart guy and has a good feel for the game. We have plenty of high volume shooters on the team, we can't have him be the same. In fact, this is the biggest problem with Dylan Smith. He is also a role player and he shoots too much and that disrupts the offense. Spacing on offense isn't created by just having someone on the perimeter or someone just taking a lot of 3 pointers. Spacing, is created by movement and pulling out defenders from the post and forcing them to move out to the perimeter. Spacing against a zone defense is created by moving into the soft spots and forcing that zone to distort - it doesn't have to have anything to do with the perimeter, as you can distort a zone from the high post and also the baseline. Stone was very good against UW at finding the soft spot in the zone AND then making the turn around jumper (Zeke really struggled that game with that). Without that, we would not have won the game. Defensively, he actually did a pretty good job, at times being physical in the post and also defending on the perimeter. He is not athletic like Josh Green and will never be a lockdown defender and he will get beaten at times on the dribble, but again he is a role player and that isn't his role, just play smart proper defense. Basketball is all about matchups, there will be some matchups that he will excel in and others (if having to guard a highly athletic big) he will struggle with.

Lastly, if you were to take away Stone's minutes, who would you give them to and why? I love Ira, but he is always in foul trouble and is limited offensively. He is a great spark off the bench, but I don't think he can play 30 min a game or he would foul out almost every time. The other option is to play Koloko at C and play Zeke at PF. I really like that combo as well, but Koloko isn't ready to be playing more than 15 min a game. He has great potential, but also very raw. In time I think he will be great. If you want to go really small you could put Josh at PF, if the matchups for that lineup worked out, but that won't work the majority of the time and certainly would not have worked against UW.

WILD


arxpert

Quote from: WILDBeaker on February 01, 2020, 12:10:49 PM
Great analysis Zoescout!

I second this sentiment. Great analysis and I agree that there are a ton of things that happen in between commercial breaks, timeouts, etc that you can only notice when you are there live in-person that do not show up in the box score.

KansasCityCats

Stone was a miserable defender at the beginning of the season.

He still has mental lapses that result in easy buckets for opponents but his improving D was showcased against a UW front court that will likely be in the NBA next year.

arxpert

Quote from: PacSouthwest on January 31, 2020, 09:26:10 PM
Quote from: zoescout on January 31, 2020, 10:42:27 AM
Quote from: PacSouthwest on January 31, 2020, 09:59:16 AM
I was at the game last night and almost none of the things on your list happened (at least last night).
1. Millers love for Gettings will be this years downfall. Gettings was incredibly valuable last night at exploiting the zone at the high post and making shot after shot from the elbow. Zeke couldn't hit any of those shots last night. Gettings has flaws, but also provides value with spacing and also attacking the zone
You don't know the game as well as you think then; and being at the game does not enhance your knowledge. People like you just concentrate on offense and whether the ball goes in the basket.
Gettings: Cool he made a couple mid-range shots. But he places zero pressure on the defense because they are not concerned with him around the basket. When you know what the opponent is going to do, it is that much easier to guard them. Also, his value spacing the court is setting up behind the arc. Do you know how many shots he had behind the arc? He was 0-1 and he is making 0.5 3PT/GM.
These are his stats (team rank):
OFF.RTG (10th) and DEF.RTG (9th)
FGM/G: 2.1
3PTA/G: 1.2
3PTM/G: 0.5
FTM/G: 1.1
AS/G: 0.8
TO/G: 1.3 (Worst on team)
OREB/G: 0.9
DREB/G: 1.9
ST/G: 0.6
BL/G: 0.7
...and you think the decision to put him in a spot that gets that many touches is not problematic?

Gettings 19pts 12reb your stats are trash.


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