2020 Recruiting List

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ChrisZona

Quote from: mvpreed2 on March 11, 2020, 01:12:43 PM
Quote from: TennesseeCat36 on March 11, 2020, 07:42:56 AM
So if Zeke stays another year who starts alongside him? Brown? Koloko? Or do they go smaller and only have Zeke at the 5? My guess would be Brown and Zeke with Koloko coming off the bench but getting more minutes
I believe the cards have been setup for Brown to step into the starting lineup at the 5.
My question at this point is who is going to be our starting frontcourt with Gettings/Jeter/Nnaji all set to leave Arizona in 2020?
Brown is a lock to me, looking at our hand right now, Lee would be our starting 4, but his value would diminish as he is a spark plug off the bench.

Looking at our roster now, we HAVE to land a 1-2 MORE wings; an elite wing (Beauchamp/Christopher/Williams) and solid 3-4 year option (Walton) to go with Mathurin/Terry, a true 4 (???), and hyrbid 4-5 (???).
We are going to lose roughly 5-7 players (Gettings/Green/Hazzard/Jeter/Mannion/Nnaji/Smith), and unless Miller is able to work his magic, our 2020-21 season is going to be like 2018-19 because of the large amount of holes and not enough prospects to fill them.

I think Koloko is a starter next year, he's going to be a problem on the defensive side of the ball and probably the only guy I'm confident in for next year. I have no idea what to expect from Brown dude averaged like 2pts and 10 minutes on an overrated Nevada team. I think he's a little more skilled with a midrange game in his arsenal so I think by default he starts along with CK just because I don't see Lee as a starter (not big or skilled enough). Unless we can land some big time transfer on the market I think that's our main frontcourt group for next year and likely just need to add depth.

I like the Mathurin/Terry additions long athletic wings both 3-4 year guys, both likely to struggle a bit next year. Obviously for our wings adding Ziaire, or the potential return of Josh Green would probably make this our best wing unit since Stanley and Rondae were playing in Tucson. I think we'd need one of those scenarios to play out if we want to realistically compete for a tournament spot. Either of those 2 groups would set us up at the position and given all the spots available I'd look for a traditional transfer to fill in. If neither of those 2 scenarios play then I think the grad transfer route is the play.

The guard position particularly the point guard spot is where I'm concerned (yet again). Williams is again a big mystery and even if he's good to go who knows how this kid will look missing an entire year and all. I've not given up all hope on Baker but man this kid is invisible he has is moments and then just disappears for games. Akinjo is obviously the big fish here who we might not even get until January. He's a tough, scrapping player, but on paper he's essentially a worse version of Nico/Trier and that is obviously concerning. Only other guard I know we are in is Walton who's not a PG and like the other frosh is more a 3-4 year who will need to develop first. And my assumption is Miller is probably set with that group the way he was talking up Brandon Williams.

TennesseeCat36

I wouldn't say that just yet. Too much time and variables in place to see who comes back and if we can get Ziaire and or Walton and if B Will is healthy plus the remaining recruits/grad transfers. I would wait until late May to make predictions and assumptions for next season

mvpreed2

Quote from: TennesseeCat36 on March 11, 2020, 05:41:31 PM
I wouldn't say that just yet. Too much time and variables in place to see who comes back and if we can get Ziaire and or Walton and if B Will is healthy plus the remaining recruits/grad transfers. I would wait until late May to make predictions and assumptions for next season
Yes you are right, but we have had some time past and no real news in regards to recruiting.

There are too many unknowns heading into season for me to honestly believe that Miller is going to be able to work THAT much magic.
The one thing(s) that will make each situation easier is if one or more of these freshmen come back.
I can see a situation where we head into 2020 with one or both of Green/Nnaji coming back, which would mean things are going to be completely different with having them have a year of experience coming back.
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mvpreed2

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Quote from: ChrisZona on March 11, 2020, 04:19:08 PM
Quote from: mvpreed2 on March 11, 2020, 01:12:43 PM
Quote from: TennesseeCat36 on March 11, 2020, 07:42:56 AM
So if Zeke stays another year who starts alongside him? Brown? Koloko? Or do they go smaller and only have Zeke at the 5? My guess would be Brown and Zeke with Koloko coming off the bench but getting more minutes
I believe the cards have been setup for Brown to step into the starting lineup at the 5.
My question at this point is who is going to be our starting frontcourt with Gettings/Jeter/Nnaji all set to leave Arizona in 2020?
Brown is a lock to me, looking at our hand right now, Lee would be our starting 4, but his value would diminish as he is a spark plug off the bench.

Looking at our roster now, we HAVE to land a 1-2 MORE wings; an elite wing (Beauchamp/Christopher/Williams) and solid 3-4 year option (Walton) to go with Mathurin/Terry, a true 4 (???), and hyrbid 4-5 (???).
We are going to lose roughly 5-7 players (Gettings/Green/Hazzard/Jeter/Mannion/Nnaji/Smith), and unless Miller is able to work his magic, our 2020-21 season is going to be like 2018-19 because of the large amount of holes and not enough prospects to fill them.

I think Koloko is a starter next year, he's going to be a problem on the defensive side of the ball and probably the only guy I'm confident in for next year. I have no idea what to expect from Brown dude averaged like 2pts and 10 minutes on an overrated Nevada team. I think he's a little more skilled with a midrange game in his arsenal so I think by default he starts along with CK just because I don't see Lee as a starter (not big or skilled enough). Unless we can land some big time transfer on the market I think that's our main frontcourt group for next year and likely just need to add depth.

The guard position particularly the point guard spot is where I'm concerned (yet again). Williams is again a big mystery and even if he's good to go who knows how this kid will look missing an entire year and all. I've not given up all hope on Baker but man this kid is invisible he has is moments and then just disappears for games. Akinjo is obviously the big fish here who we might not even get until January. He's a tough, scrapping player, but on paper he's essentially a worse version of Nico/Trier and that is obviously concerning. Only other guard I know we are in is Walton who's not a PG and like the other frosh is more a 3-4 year who will need to develop first. And my assumption is Miller is probably set with that group the way he was talking up Brandon Williams.
I can see a situation with a Brown/Koloko frontcourt, but we would be in trouble if CK isn't able to stay out of trouble.
Like TennesseeCat36 said, there is a lot of time and too many variables to play out.

As for PG, I will go on record and say that I am not expecting Williams to be back in 2020.
Akinjo and Baker are going to be our lead guards in 2020, and we are going to be trying to figure out who that other starting guard is going to be if Green goes to the NBA, BUT I do believe that he can return along with Nnaji which would shoot us up to the top of the PAC-12 preseason hype with Oregon/UCLA/USC and I guess ASU/Colorado.
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TennesseeCat36

Every year as soon as the season ends I try and keep up with who we are getting and I will watch the McDonald's game, Jordan brand game and Nike hoop summit while also trying to keep up with potential transfers but this year I'm just going to wait until late May with baseball keeping me occupied and then check out the roster and message boards again to see how the full roster looks. Trying not to get too excited or worried until the final product is known

mvpreed2

Quote from: TennesseeCat36 on March 11, 2020, 09:31:26 PM
Every year as soon as the season ends I try and keep up with who we are getting and I will watch the McDonald's game, Jordan brand game and Nike hoop summit while also trying to keep up with potential transfers but this year I'm just going to wait until late May with baseball keeping me occupied and then check out the roster and message boards again to see how the full roster looks. Trying not to get too excited or worried until the final product is known
Well, the transfer free agency doesn't end until about mid-summer.

We have to go through the college off-season calendar:

- NCAA Tournament (March/April)
- NBA Declarations (April)
- Coach Firings/Hirings (February-April)
- HS Late-Signing Period (April)
- Grad-Transfer Declarations (February-July)
- Grad-Transfer Free Agency (April-July)

This thing won't be officially finalized until Summer School is over around July.
Me and few others on here helped me track the Grad-Transfer Free Agency AND the Coaching Carousel last off-season.
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mvpreed2

#66
This college recruiting landscape has changed for the worst.
You used to be able to stack your program with blue chips and loaded up every year like we have seen Kentucky/Duke/North Carolina do in the past.
Now, it is almost like you have a better shot by having little to nothing in the cupboards and telling an elite prospect..."Yo you come here and you get the keys to the car!"

Williams commits to Stanford, and now Christopher is going to ASSU?
Since when did we start losing to the likes of Stanford and ASSU for 5* prospects?
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FOOS

Quote from: mvpreed2 on April 13, 2020, 10:34:09 PM
This college recruiting landscape has changed for the worst.
You used to be able to stack your program with blue chips and loaded up every year like we have seen Kentucky/Duke/North Carolina do in the past.
Now, it is almost like you have a better shot by having little to nothing in the cupboards and telling an elite prospect..."Yo you come here and you get the keys to the car!"

Williams commits to Stanford, and now Christopher is going to ASSU?
Since when did we start losing to the likes of Stanford and ASSU for 5* prospects?

It's Mid Major Miller time, Mike......  damn

mvpreed2

Quote from: FOOS on April 14, 2020, 06:06:20 PM
Quote from: mvpreed2 on April 13, 2020, 10:34:09 PM
This college recruiting landscape has changed for the worst.
You used to be able to stack your program with blue chips and loaded up every year like we have seen Kentucky/Duke/North Carolina do in the past.
Now, it is almost like you have a better shot by having little to nothing in the cupboards and telling an elite prospect..."Yo you come here and you get the keys to the car!"

Williams commits to Stanford, and now Christopher is going to ASSU?
Since when did we start losing to the likes of Stanford and ASSU for 5* prospects?

It's Mid Major Miller time, Mike......  damn
That literally made me laugh...
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mvpreed2

The list has now been updated with the signing of Kriisa and the commitment of Batcho this morning.
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