2020 Recruiting List

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Quote from: ichi on January 25, 2020, 02:32:00 PM
its interesting to hear all of the voices calling for CSM to chase fewer ONDs and focus on finding quality 3-4 year players

and then others concerned that we don't got no one in the top 25 comin in

it gets very interesting when our 3-4 year guys aren't NBA-level when they start to get PT, like how everyone bashed Lee his freshman year

I hope we can keep bringin in ONDs and mix in some 3-4 year guys with transfers to fill out the roster, do that until the threat of sanctions is behind us (will it ever be tho?) or until the whole college scene is transformed by the end of the plantation system and the one year rule
Great post Ichi, and the one thing that stuck out to me was IL and CSM chose to use him.
I personally thought we could have used him as a hybrid F like we did with AG.

A good example of a program who has been able to win without elite HS talent has been Gonzaga.
They identify the right HS/overseas prospects, use the transfer market to fill the holes and win.
They are like the San Antonio Spurs of college basketball.
They haven't had the success on elite HS talent for long, maybe 3-4 years ago, but they continue to reload and hand with the big boys on the big stage.

I say all that to say this is no right way to recruit.
Everything (to me) relies on talent evaluation and player development.
If those two are off, you won't be able to land enough OND HS prospects to mask the issue.
Just look at Kentucky and the "dip" they have taken in recruiting and success on the court.
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mvpreed2

After watching this 2020 PAC-12 season, there is one thing that Miller is going to be forced to do if he wants to maximize this "position-less basketball" mantra:

RECRUIT LONGER, MORE ATHLETIC WINGS!

We cannot have anyone over 6'6 on our roster trying to lay the ball in anymore.
Either punch it in, or get subbed out!
We are too soft around the rim and part of that is because we lack athleticism.
We need to play above the rim, because some of those plays are momentum-shifting plays that we need to turn around a game.

Terry/Mathurin are good prospects, but we need more athleticism and prospects like Christopher/Green/Williams are what we need to give us that shot in the arm.
We always had a least one every 2-3 years; that electric HS prospect that Miller just let go because they were too talented.
We don't have one of those on this roster...
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Yes I agree 100 percent! I've been wanting us to get more 6'7-6'9 guys similar to Florida State and play above the rim more and with that length comes better defense with rebounding, blocking shots and deflecting passes

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Quote from: TennesseeCat36 on March 09, 2020, 10:35:16 AM
Yes I agree 100 percent! I've been wanting us to get more 6'7-6'9 guys similar to Florida State and play above the rim more and with that length comes better defense with rebounding, blocking shots and deflecting passes
That is how we used to be built, on a dominant defense, but we don't have the tools to be that right now.

Koloko could be that anchor in the middle like Tarczewski/Ristic used to be, but we have been missing that in the middle.
We don't challenge as many shots at the rim, and we don't rebound as well on the defensive end.
I would say 6'6-6'8 prospects that can play 1-4 and a single big would be ideal for us.
I would say imagine our lineup being like the Houston Rockets when they had Capela.
Koloko = Capela and you surround him with four wings and you just go...
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When Koloko starts to figure things out on offense, he will be valuable for years to come.

Glad we finally have a 4-year big man that we can build-around because he seems like an ideal candidate to increasingly contribute throughout his career in Tucson.

Another 3-4* big man would be huge so they can practice against each other on a daily basis.  Zeke already laid the foundation & I'm not optimistic that he'll return for a Sophomore year...although it isn't a guarantee that he's leaving yet.

TennesseeCat36

So if Zeke stays another year who starts alongside him? Brown? Koloko? Or do they go smaller and only have Zeke at the 5? My guess would be Brown and Zeke with Koloko coming off the bench but getting more minutes

Jdmarti

If zeke came back I would think   zeke an brown would  start  I dont think zeke comes back though.

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Comments on the 2020 class Arizona  probably needs a grad transfer big   no matter what   an hoping Arizona  gets ziaire willams an kerwin walton  even though ziaire is a one an done talent  an walton would be probably a 4 yr player. I would like to see  Arizona start getting a mix of one or two 5 star players an the rest 4 star players  that will be here for 3 or 4 years.

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Quote from: TennesseeCat36 on March 11, 2020, 07:42:56 AM
So if Zeke stays another year who starts alongside him? Brown? Koloko? Or do they go smaller and only have Zeke at the 5? My guess would be Brown and Zeke with Koloko coming off the bench but getting more minutes
I believe the cards have been setup for Brown to step into the starting lineup at the 5.
My question at this point is who is going to be our starting frontcourt with Gettings/Jeter/Nnaji all set to leave Arizona in 2020?
Brown is a lock to me, looking at our hand right now, Lee would be our starting 4, but his value would diminish as he is a spark plug off the bench.

Looking at our roster now, we HAVE to land a 1-2 MORE wings; an elite wing (Beauchamp/Christopher/Williams) and solid 3-4 year option (Walton) to go with Mathurin/Terry, a true 4 (???), and hyrbid 4-5 (???).
We are going to lose roughly 5-7 players (Gettings/Green/Hazzard/Jeter/Mannion/Nnaji/Smith), and unless Miller is able to work his magic, our 2020-21 season is going to be like 2018-19 because of the large amount of holes and not enough prospects to fill them. 
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Next year is going to be brutal.


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