Arizona coach Tommy Lloyd comes in ranked as #15 best current coach in CBB

Started by WILD, August 12, 2025, 06:57:14 PM

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mvpreed2

I saw this on Twitter.
There is no argument about 10-12 of these coaches.
Whether it be what they have now, or the prestige of carrying what they did at previous programs.
They are flat out better and have more juice than Lloyd right now.

The two coaches that made tilt my head to the side were Oats (Alabama) and Beard (Ole Miss).
Oats had some good recruiting classes and some good seasons (so has Lloyd).
Beard had that run at Texas Tech, but he did not do so well at Texas, and now at Ole Miss.
I believe Lloyd could have been bumped up to #13.
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Quote from: mvpreed2 on August 13, 2025, 11:19:39 AMI saw this on Twitter.
There is no argument about 10-12 of these coaches.
Whether it be what they have now, or the prestige of carrying what they did at previous programs.
They are flat out better and have more juice than Lloyd right now.

The two coaches that made tilt my head to the side were Oats (Alabama) and Beard (Ole Miss).
Oats had some good recruiting classes and some good seasons (so has Lloyd).
Beard had that run at Texas Tech, but he did not do so well at Texas, and now at Ole Miss.
I believe Lloyd could have been bumped up to #13.
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Swap Few and Izzo IMO.  And 100% on Beard and Oats......

Deb

IMO, Beard well deserves to be ahead of Lloyd. He made a title appearance in '19. He has 2 sweet16's, an EE and a FF. He is a good coach.

And Izzo at #12 is ridic. Guy has 8 FF's and a title. What the heck has Painter done to be #5?!? 1 FF gets you a top 5 spot? Silly.

mvpreed2

Quote from: FOOS on August 13, 2025, 11:45:19 AMSwap Few and Izzo IMO.  And 100% on Beard and Oats......
I believe Few got that high of a nod based on recency bias.
Izzo has not had a good team at Michigan State in awhile.
While Few continues to have Final Four contenders every year.
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mvpreed2

Quote from: Deb on August 13, 2025, 12:17:23 PMIMO, Beard well deserves to be ahead of Lloyd. He made a title appearance in '19. He has 2 sweet16's, an EE and a FF. He is a good coach.

And Izzo at #12 is ridic. Guy has 8 FF's and a title. What the heck has Painter done to be #5?!? 1 FF gets you a top 5 spot? Silly.
Like they did with Few, I believe Painter got a huge bump based on recency bias.
Back-to-back National POY, a Final Four and loss to UConn in the National Championship Game within the past two seasons would make Painter look very good on paper.
5 Sweet 16s, 1 Elite Eight, 1 Final Four and National Champion Runner-Up?
 
I am not saying I agree with it.
I am simply saying I can understand how someone would do it.
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Quote from: mvpreed2 on August 13, 2025, 12:43:07 PM
Quote from: FOOS on August 13, 2025, 11:45:19 AMSwap Few and Izzo IMO.  And 100% on Beard and Oats......
I believe Few got that high of a nod based on recency bias.
Izzo has not had a good team at Michigan State in awhile.
While Few continues to have Final Four contenders every year.
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Yeah man - hard to argue that.  Whoever created that should have added context e.g, , must have coached 5 years.  based on performance of those 5 years - not 20 years (Few/Izzo).  In the case 100% Few > Izzo

Deb

The last three seasons, both Izzo's and Few's record is identical - 1 S15, 1EE, and a loss in the sec round.

mvpreed2

Quote from: FOOS on August 13, 2025, 03:36:26 PMYeah man - hard to argue that.  Whoever created that shod have added context e.g, , must have coached 5 years.  based on performance of those 5 years - not 20 years (Few/Izzo).  In the case 100% Few > Izzo
That is one of my issues with creating a list.
I know most of the time, it is nothing but clickbait and rage bait.
At some point, I would like to get some sort of criteria to explain/justify the rankings.
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