Did ACE/PGU start this whole mess with Book & the FBI??

[Manillathrilla]

Ace was a piece of shit and a coward and knew too much, someone who is that big of an asshole, especially online, does not just disappear into thin air like he did.  Unless he was threatened or was not legally allowed to.  Seriously, PGU guys think about it...

[PBCatfan]

Everything is 20/20 in hindsight. This theory about ACE being involved seems more and more likely as we get fed bits and pieces of info from the investigation.

[Bear]

So the conspiracy theory is that Ace is the FBI informant whom also leaked this payout to ESPN. His motive behind all this is that he had Book paid for information about the team that he could sell to us fans but Miller got wind and cut it off so Ace decided to burn Miller to the ground. Everyone else is just a casualty.

And Miller and the UA knew this was going to pose potential problems a while ago so came to an agreement to part  ways after the season. But it wasn't going to happen with a good payout unless Miller did well in the tourney and handed a successful program off. So miller told Romar he has secured him a future head coaching gig knowing that only a coach like Romar with strong recruiting could help UA keep his incoming class.

What Miller and UA didn't know was the extent of Ace's ire and that everyone was going down in flames. So when Book got arrested, Miller and Arizona went into damage prevention mode and it was way better than Ace saw coming. They neutered him and Ace saw Miller potentially walking away from all this so called ESPN. ESPN having gotten many stories from PGU knew this to be solid so ran with it.

And so here we are today with Romar being our new coach next year just a little early and it was all planned anyways.

I haven't read this whole thread and probably none of this is true but it's great fun and great fodder.

[lsg_da_apache]

The more and more that is ugly situation plays out, I believe that at some point ACE might have something to do with all of this. For those who did not follow PGU, all of this would seem "off the deep end", but for those who did know that ACE was really rude to some of the followers. Especially when they aimed at him or gave his so-called credit to someone else, then he would really get insulting. So if Miller gave Book the order to stop feeding ACE information, it must have really pissed him off and started this whole mess. I for one was hesitant to post sometimes on PGU for that fact alone, but I am still hesitant to post stuff here at times. At least on this site there is no bashing from the moderators, which is a nice change. I for one would visit PGU religiously and I do the same for this site. But this just my two cents on this thread.

[Lutesguitar]

I have speculated that ACE was involved but only parenthetically...I was on his site and he treated me like crap, exposed personal information and mocked my faith, I was not even able to delete my account...

But my speculation centers more on his lifestyle and snippets I heard, he was a big fan of gambling and flashing money, trying to play the part of a big time party dude flashing bling and cars and money like there was no tomorrow...

But he was in Vegas...in Sin City the mob was overcome by the IRS...as much as you like to think of Vegas as a mafia town you'd be better served to think of it as a Tax town...flashing money in front of IRS high profile communities is just asking for an agent to be assigned to you, or at minimum an audit.

I think the IRS raided Aces place and confiscated his computers...and agent spent a month going through some shoddy book-keeping and a ton of pictures and stumbled upon a college recruit embezzlement program...

Out of his jurisdiction he turns it over to the FBI, who just so happen to already have some of the players connected...they move on EVERYONE ACE is doing business with and find his web company is legit and being run by his relative...but Ace is done...his money flashing days are over...

As far as his connection to Book he did not break any laws, it's his tax evasion that gets him knockered...depending on the degree and severity of his tax bill he's either serving time or working for minimum wage paying off a huge tax bill the rest of his life.

The FBI however finds substantial connections to verify that Book was dirty...which simply adds to the case they already have been building against dawkins.

[Lutesguitar]

One thing I did find interesting in the Dawkins spreadsheet provided by Yahoo Sports that names names and represents expenditures from dawkins is there is an account there for "Ace 4N LLC"...it is at minimum interesting, and might explain where Ace got all that cash he flashed.

Just speculation on my part though as is all of this.

[WILD]

I saw that too LutesGuitar, but I think it says Ace-In LLC. What are the odds? I circled it in red below.

[Lutesguitar]

You are right WildcatAZfan...it does say Ace-In...hahaha...what are the chances that he WAS hooked up with Dawkins and he funnelled Book to him?

He was at some point trying desperately to connect to recruits and interview them etc...he went to AAU events and tried to get them on video...there's a good chance he and Dawkins met and ran in the same culture of bling and bull**it

[Titan4Wildcats]

How odd...I don't see any UofA players on there.  Do I need glasses?  Me thinks not. 

[FOOS]

I think everyone is giving Ace too much credit.  Was he involved with Book and pissed Miller off ?  Yes - how much power and/or details he had on Book's involvement ?  who knows - I'm just doubtful he had enough to bring down the University - and if he did ?  Beyond scum