Did ACE/PGU start this whole mess with Book & the FBI??

[Surgeon]

I was on at PGU and got reamed for suggesting that paying for the private forum was really just impatience since everything eventually gets revealed...Ace dumped my personal info online and mocked me...I tried to delete my account but was not given the option...

This is what I can surmise from that...whoever Ace was he was incredibly insecure and one of the greatest demonstrations of that was his twitter account with him showing all the cars and cash and boats and bling...

Now here's the deal, Vegas is a business world, it might come across as a playground but having done construction there I can assure you it is business to its core, people who go around flashing money and bling get marked right away...there was even evidence in one off his tweets that he had been banned form a casino...now you don't get banned from a casino without either running up huge debt or doing shady shit, hell they let Hells Angels have gunfights in the lobbies...

All that bling does not go unnoticed, no way in hell he made that money from Gophermedia or PGU...you seriously think you're buying high end cars running a veterinarians website???

There is very little doubt (but also very little evidence) that he was not doing some kind of illegal shit, either tax evasion, or money laundering or perhaps even getting into the recruitment game for Adidas...and Vegas is the absolute WORST town to try and pull that crap...the Feds keep a pretty tight surveliance on every casino, the kinds of legal clearances and documentation that those casinos must submit to stay in good graces is deeper than your average political campaign...there are laws about recording every transaction over certain dollar amounts, hell even your local bank must report cash deposits over 10k to the feds...

There's no way a guy like Ace does not attract the wrong kind of attention...the timelines line up pretty well and there were even some photos at one time of Book at one of the parties...we know that Book got reprimanded by Miller for leaking info, THIS might be the silver lining in the whole mess...let me explain:

Book is an employee of the State of Az, as such he cannot get a reprimand without heavy documentation, this goes in "his file"...Miller cannot be expected by the NCAA to have wire taps and set up stings on his assistant coaches, without hard core evidence Miller cannot simply fire Book on a hunch...so this personal record might be enough proof that Miller was in compliance with the NCAA rule of "creating an atmosphere of compliance"...he has a recent record of reprimanding Book and then no hard evidence of his wrong doing that got him nabbed...so Book leaking stuff to Ace created the situation where Miller has a record of correction in his favor...

Here's my last theory...I think Book exonerates Miller...media day is Oct. 11-12, Books hearing is Oct. 10...he will probably cop a plea deal, but in doing so he will admit guilt and in that moment I think Book steps up to the plate and lets everyone hear him say "I acted alone without anyone's knowledge this is all on me"...

I trust that is the character that both he and Miller expect from one another...I know we all want to see Book strung up for smearing the UA, but lets not forget he loves these guys and he probably loves the UA...I think he will try to clean up his own mess.

Obviously Ace is way before my time, no idea until this week- but from what Ive been reading from all of you guys is it seems like him and Dawkins have similar traits lol. Not like there's any connection or anything, just a simple observation. Flamboyance/bragging, getting caught with your pants down. Just think it's funny

First off his name isn't ace. He's not a fighter pilot or some street fighter character. His name is Ajay Thakore and he is a laughably small person with the physicality of a thin mint. That said, he talked shit like he was someone who could back it but it was all a charade. He basically duped naive people into thinking he was some kind of authority when all he was doing was giving kickbacks to get information. So in that sense he was an authority, and it exploded his ego those of his minions as well. PGU appeared to have some almost Scientology like following, as evidenced by the posts above.

give this a read if you haven't:  https://www.tucsonweekly.com/tucson/media-watch/Content?oid=5028027

[ZonaBBB]

Surgeon,
You just stated a bunch of obvious information and have absolutely no idea what PGU was. Congrats you know his name.  We all knew his name? Please just stay off this thread if you dont have a clue what youre talking about.  Comparing it to Scientology is insulting.

[Surgeon]

Surgeon,
You just stated a bunch of obvious information and have absolutely no idea what PGU was. Congrats you know his name.  We all knew his name? Please just stay off this thread if you dont have a clue what youre talking about.  Comparing it to Scientology is insulting.

I replied to someone who said they didn't know Ajay, not you. I know what I need to know. If you're insulted for because I'm asserting that many people of that site backed a very clearly mentally unstable, abusive lunatic then be insulted. I was at PGU for years and have my own shit with Ajay. I'll say what I want.

[ZonaBBB]

Calling the folks that are from PGU naive, minions is not acceptable.  The site Ace ran was entertaining, far better than anything out there (for Zona fans), had legit content.  Not just inside scoop.  Great conversation. A ring of fantastic fans.  I think I speak for most of the members by saying, Pipe it down buddy.

[Surgeon]

Calling the folks that are from PGU naive, minions is not acceptable.  The site Ace ran was entertaining, far better than anything out there (for Zona fans), had legit content.  Not just inside scoop.  Great conversation. A ring of fantastic fans.  I think I speak for most of the members by saying, Pipe it down buddy.

The naive minions were the select few. Again, I still used the site to get info and chat with fellow fans as it was a good platform. But I was very aware how fucked up Ajay was. Don't try to censor me by telling me to go away. I'm explaining to an Arizona fan who is unaware of the past situation.  I have zero beef with you or any fellow fans.

[dashots_UA]

Surgeon,
You just stated a bunch of obvious information and have absolutely no idea what PGU was. Congrats you know his name.  We all knew his name? Please just stay off this thread if you dont have a clue what youre talking about.  Comparing it to Scientology is insulting.

Cmon now. This is why many of us hated that site because too many people followed up comments like this.  Are we going to bring back the all too familiar PGU memes that made people wish they never posted as well?  Lets keep it friendly and not become what we hated.

[GoCatZ]

Whoa, lets keep it civil here guys.  We don't want this to turn into what was the worst part of PGU. 

[Lutesguitar]

Calling the folks that are from PGU naive, minions is not acceptable.  The site Ace ran was entertaining, far better than anything out there (for Zona fans), had legit content.  Not just inside scoop.  Great conversation. A ring of fantastic fans.  I think I speak for most of the members by saying, Pipe it down buddy.

The naive minions were the select few. Again, I still used the site to get info and chat with fellow fans as it was a good platform. But I was very aware how fucked up Ajay was. Don't try to censor me by telling me to go away. I'm explaining to an Arizona fan who is unaware of the past situation.  I have zero beef with you or any fellow fans.

Ummm not everyone was naive about who the child of seemingly Indian descent was, I knew he was just a braggadocios punk, I (and others quoting me) used his name "Ace" because thats the persona he used on PGU, he did not use another name...if you read my post that is quoted you will see that I also used the site regularly until he exposed my personal information, at that point I elected to stay away and it was pretty close to the end anyway, it might help if you turned your condescension and assumption settings down a little.
If you think for one minute I did not immediately do all the detailed searching I could about who he was and where he worked after he exposed my personal information online then perhaps you don't know me as well as you assume you do...I can tell you where he lived, where he stayed in San Diego, where he took the pictures of his cars and what casinos had banned him and I sure as hell did not get that information by googling :"Ace"

I think its fair to allow people who might not have known much about the site to use "Ace" since we all pretty much hate what that moniker stood for in UA fanboards.

[Surgeon]

this came out there in today's paper. 

"In March, FBI agents watched as Mr. Soon met with several people at a restaurant in Las Vegas.  Prosecutors alleged it was a meeting to arrange paying basketball coaches at the university of Arizona."

The article goes in pretty good depth of painting the timeline. Blazer was desperate to give investigators some kind of criminal activity he could to lighten his future sentence (which according to documents can be between two and 64 years) so he started reaching out to people.  He had reached out to a partner, Sood, to work with Dawkins to land recruits. This is where it gets interesting. Basically Sood and Dawkins went behind Blazers back and started doing deals on their own (with undercover FBI agents posing as investors). Essentially Arizona got involved when Sood notified Blazer (who by this time was wire tapped) about his meeting in Vegas regarding Arizona.  So, how does Sood know PGU?

https://www.wsj.com/articles/the-man-who-started-college-basketballs-armageddon-1506902378

[Surgeon]

Calling the folks that are from PGU naive, minions is not acceptable.  The site Ace ran was entertaining, far better than anything out there (for Zona fans), had legit content.  Not just inside scoop.  Great conversation. A ring of fantastic fans.  I think I speak for most of the members by saying, Pipe it down buddy.

The naive minions were the select few. Again, I still used the site to get info and chat with fellow fans as it was a good platform. But I was very aware how fucked up Ajay was. Don't try to censor me by telling me to go away. I'm explaining to an Arizona fan who is unaware of the past situation.  I have zero beef with you or any fellow fans.

Ummm not everyone was naive about who the child of seemingly Indian descent was, I knew he was just a braggadocios punk, I (and others quoting me) used his name "Ace" because thats the persona he used on PGU, he did not use another name...if you read my post that is quoted you will see that I also used the site regularly until he exposed my personal information, at that point I elected to stay away and it was pretty close to the end anyway, it might help if you turned your condescension and assumption settings down a little.
If you think for one minute I did not immediately do all the detailed searching I could about who he was and where he worked after he exposed my personal information online then perhaps you don't know me as well as you assume you do...I can tell you where he lived, where he stayed in San Diego, where he took the pictures of his cars and what casinos had banned him and I sure as hell did not get that information by googling :"Ace"

I think its fair to allow people who might not have known much about the site to use "Ace" since we all pretty much hate what that moniker stood for in UA fanboards.

I had a similar experience. But I wasn't addressing your post. There was a guy who posted early on saying something like "ace was before my time".  Pretty sure most people came to the same conclusion on their own regarding PGU's leader. I just wanted to paint my picture.  There was some bizarre stuff going on not only in general, but within his inner circle. It was weird man.