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Started by WILD, September 28, 2017, 12:57:33 PM

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Lutesguitar

Quote from: Liquidated on February 28, 2019, 12:18:04 PM

I am puzzled by this too...for different reasons. Both parties (FBI/Justice Department & NCAA) should recognize that cooperation with each other will likely yield far more evidence and convictions and because the NCAA is a voluntary association, they do have power that the FBI does not. For example we voluntarily turned over the evidence of Phelps guilt to the NCAA and self reported the Academic Fraud. The FBI would have had to go through subpoena process and face potential legal challenges to get the same information. Likewise the FBI can track down banking records, for example, that the NCAA would never get their hands on if the school did not want to turn them over.

I just can't believe that both parties would not recognize the value in co-operation.

I do not think anything the NCAA does would open them up to any lawsuits...it is voluntary and non profit organization and they do not benefit any more or less when any one team is on double secret probation. People forget that all of this money we are allegedly taking from our basketball and football players actually pays for all sorts of other sports and scholarships to help other students. No one is getting rich or 'exploiting' college athletes and that is easy for the NCAA to show.

NCAA, when it comes down to it, has all sorts of 'special exemptions' like Baseball.

Are you on crack or do you just make up crap?

You seriously think the NCAA has an advantage over the FBI?

Simply because the NCAA might have something THAT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE ACTUAL CASE we are talking about does not mean that the FBI would have a hard time getting it, as you admit yourself it is as simple as getting a warrant subpoena and then grabbing the box of evidence for themselves.

Besides as WILDcatAZfan just posted it went EXACTLY as I suspected it would.

Learn to use reason, it will make your life easier.

WILD

Three sentenced today in FBI scandal

Haney, Dawkins' attorney, promised both a "street fight" and a "fact-heavy trial." The coaches are being subpoenaed by Dawkins and Haney as defense witnesses.

Asked how many coaches might take the stand in April, Haney said, "As many as I can get in the courtroom. In the second trial, we're going to pull back the curtain."

https://twitter.com/AdamZagoria/status/1103041154893918208

BearDown93

Good luck with that 'street fight' against the FBI where everyone except your client has so far been found guilty.

Jav

It's not obvious to me how Sean Miller (either being involved in, knowing about, or being ignorant of Dawkin's bribery involvement) is a witness that helps the defense of Dawkins.  Does anybody understand why the defense would call him?

I guess his lawyers are going to say that Dawkins was merely doing what Adidas and Adidas schools wanted him to do.  I guess you might try to say that another coach/school offering a player money is a justification for offering that same player more money?

BearDown93

Someone feel free to correct me if I'm wrong but here is my understanding at the moment:

SM and Dawkins have had communications with one another as would be normal.  However, Dawkins is accused of luring the coach to players (or a specific player) wanting to come to Arizona perhaps if the money was right wink wink.  Hence shopping the player(s).  SM says he would never accept money and wouldn't even discuss the possibility.  How that discussion went down or if it went down I'm not sure has been documented.  Seems like a lot of hear say.

The attorney will probably want to bring in Miller to show that the discussion never took place as he knows Miller doesn't want any part of that story.  Miller helps them prove Dawkins didn't discuss any money with Arizona. 

Liquidated

Southern District of New York...93% conviction rate over the past decade. They bring pressure from every possible side.

If they testify under oath, then they have to tell the truth. Thats probably bad. Or they can lie and risk that the prosecution has evidence (like wire taps) that would contradict their testimony- at which point they are slapped with a federal perjury charge AND the NCAA has the evidence it needs to hammer AZ.

If Miller or Book plead the 5th...they just look guilty and the NCAA Bears Down (pardon the expression) even more because they don't have to play by the same rules as the FBI. We are a voluntary member of the NCAA and agree give up all sorts rights that the real world has.

If I were an NCAA investigator and a coach refused to answer sworn testimony, I'd want to know EVERYTHING....like how many paper clips the AD's office used last year, because there will be clues everywhere and they could spend months interviewing everyone who has ever touched basketball in Tucson or been recruited by AZ. Thats probably really, really bad.

Best option. Fire them all (we're on the right path, just moving too slow) and let the FBI sort them out and distance ourselves from the CRIMINALS still with us. We will have stronger case with he NCAA for reduced sanctions that way. Gotta get rid of the mob boss, though.   
"How does this guy still have his job?! That makes no sense...the world is getting nuked around him and Sean Miller is still there..."  - Mark Titus


AZCatFan83

Good article!  I wonder if Dawkins and his atty anticipated receiving such a light sentence (6 months minimum security facility).  That might really have a huge impact on a potential plea.  If they offer a concurrent prison term, he needs to take that shit and run!!

WILD



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