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Started by WILD, September 28, 2017, 12:57:33 PM

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Little George

Funny that we repeat the same stuff over and over twisting one or two thing to fit a narrative and keep the story alive. Selling stories is the game, fact or fiction.

Any time there is a single thing that is new they rehash the whole story as if it is breaking news.


Lutesguitar

Quote from: WILDcatAZfan on February 26, 2019, 05:32:52 PM
Another. Yahoo FBI NCAA investigation story

https://twitter.com/YahooForde/status/1100542889984176128


I honestly think this will be a complete waste of time, first of all, the NCAA cannot establish "standing" in the case without admitting that they receive tremendous benefit from college athletes (who do not get paid) THAT move ALONE would open them up to levels of class action lawsuits that would dismantle their empire in a matter of court months...

Second without establishing "standing as a victim" here, there is absolutely no way a Federal prosecutor is going to hand over FBI evidence because:
1. Protocol
2. Exposure of investigation techniques/methods/witnesses would damage the FBI
3 It weakens the case especially in terms of the defendants claiming jury bias/misconduct/mistrial

Ain't gonna happen.

The NCAA is a private corporation with plenty of its own resources no judge is going to hand over this evidence.

Pat Forde is clutching at straws here and my best guess is he baited the question TO the NCAA just so he could writa nother article.

Screw him.


Liquidated

Quote from: Lutesguitar on February 26, 2019, 06:24:25 PM
Quote from: WILDcatAZfan on February 26, 2019, 05:32:52 PM
Another. Yahoo FBI NCAA investigation story

https://twitter.com/YahooForde/status/1100542889984176128


I honestly think this will be a complete waste of time, first of all, the NCAA cannot establish "standing" in the case without admitting that they receive tremendous benefit from college athletes (who do not get paid) THAT move ALONE would open them up to levels of class action lawsuits that would dismantle their empire in a matter of court months...

Second without establishing "standing as a victim" here, there is absolutely no way a Federal prosecutor is going to hand over FBI evidence because:
1. Protocol
2. Exposure of investigation techniques/methods/witnesses would damage the FBI
3 It weakens the case especially in terms of the defendants claiming jury bias/misconduct/mistrial

Ain't gonna happen.

The NCAA is a private corporation with plenty of its own resources no judge is going to hand over this evidence.

Pat Forde is clutching at straws here and my best guess is he baited the question TO the NCAA just so he could writa nother article.

Screw him.

I am puzzled by this too...for different reasons. Both parties (FBI/Justice Department & NCAA) should recognize that cooperation with each other will likely yield far more evidence and convictions and because the NCAA is a voluntary association, they do have power that the FBI does not. For example we voluntarily turned over the evidence of Phelps guilt to the NCAA and self reported the Academic Fraud. The FBI would have had to go through subpoena process and face potential legal challenges to get the same information. Likewise the FBI can track down banking records, for example, that the NCAA would never get their hands on if the school did not want to turn them over.

I just can't believe that both parties would not recognize the value in co-operation.

I do not think anything the NCAA does would open them up to any lawsuits...it is voluntary and non profit organization and they do not benefit any more or less when any one team is on double secret probation. People forget that all of this money we are allegedly taking from our basketball and football players actually pays for all sorts of other sports and scholarships to help other students. No one is getting rich or 'exploiting' college athletes and that is easy for the NCAA to show.

NCAA, when it comes down to it, has all sorts of 'special exemptions' like Baseball.





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DefinitelyNotWiid

Quote from: Liquidated on February 28, 2019, 12:18:04 PM
Quote from: Lutesguitar on February 26, 2019, 06:24:25 PM
Quote from: WILDcatAZfan on February 26, 2019, 05:32:52 PM
Another. Yahoo FBI NCAA investigation story

https://twitter.com/YahooForde/status/1100542889984176128


I honestly think this will be a complete waste of time, first of all, the NCAA cannot establish "standing" in the case without admitting that they receive tremendous benefit from college athletes (who do not get paid) THAT move ALONE would open them up to levels of class action lawsuits that would dismantle their empire in a matter of court months...

Second without establishing "standing as a victim" here, there is absolutely no way a Federal prosecutor is going to hand over FBI evidence because:
1. Protocol
2. Exposure of investigation techniques/methods/witnesses would damage the FBI
3 It weakens the case especially in terms of the defendants claiming jury bias/misconduct/mistrial

Ain't gonna happen.

The NCAA is a private corporation with plenty of its own resources no judge is going to hand over this evidence.

Pat Forde is clutching at straws here and my best guess is he baited the question TO the NCAA just so he could writa nother article.

Screw him.

I am puzzled by this too...for different reasons. Both parties (FBI/Justice Department & NCAA) should recognize that cooperation with each other will likely yield far more evidence and convictions and because the NCAA is a voluntary association, they do have power that the FBI does not. For example we voluntarily turned over the evidence of Phelps guilt to the NCAA and self reported the Academic Fraud. The FBI would have had to go through subpoena process and face potential legal challenges to get the same information. Likewise the FBI can track down banking records, for example, that the NCAA would never get their hands on if the school did not want to turn them over.

I just can't believe that both parties would not recognize the value in co-operation.

I do not think anything the NCAA does would open them up to any lawsuits...it is voluntary and non profit organization and they do not benefit any more or less when any one team is on double secret probation. People forget that all of this money we are allegedly taking from our basketball and football players actually pays for all sorts of other sports and scholarships to help other students. No one is getting rich or 'exploiting' college athletes and that is easy for the NCAA to show.

NCAA, when it comes down to it, has all sorts of 'special exemptions' like Baseball.

Do you even try to substantiate any of your claims...ever? 10 seconds of google searching comes up with this:

The $1.06 billion in revenue from September 2016 through August 2017 is reported in audited financials the organization released on Wednesday.

The majority of the revenue came from its usual source -- the NCAA men's basketball tournament. The NCAA pulled in $761 million from the 2017 NCAA tournament. That number is set to rise to $869 million this year.

The NCAA also generated $129.4 million in ticket revenue and $60 million in marketing rights for the 2017 fiscal year.

The NCAA's expenses were $956 million. The largest chunk of that spending went to dispersing $560.3 million back to its roughly 1,100 member institutions in 24 sports in all three divisions, as well as $200 million for a one-time payment the NCAA made to schools to fund additional programs.

Another $160.5 million went to the Division I performance fund, which awards conferences based on how many teams play in the NCAA tournament and how far they advance. Units are paid out over six years.

DefinitelyNotWiid

The NCAA makes money off the viewing rights, the tickets, the merchandise, you name it, they make money off of it. The above data is 2 years old and they were projected to eclipse the 2016 mark in 2017 and 18 and so on.

lol voluntary organization.

DefinitelyNotWiid

Apparently the NCAA makes it difficult to hunt down their executive teams salaries.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/college/2018/06/21/ncaa-mark-emmert-got-nearly-500-000-raise-2-4-million/722482002/

in 2010 data showed that 14 top executives for the NCAA topped $6.5 million. Let's just say it's safe to say its at least double that now. Where can I volunteer?

KansasCityCats

Damn.  I know a few NAIA employees here in KC.  They work 10x harder and I can confirm that they do NOT make 7-figures.


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