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KansasCityCats

Nobody is consistently sitting, in lieu of Delly. We have plenty of depth and we could play smaller lineups, appending on the opponent.

Flagg is an awful shooter. His significant minutes is a reflection of poor coaching. If a player has the worst 3 point percentage on the team, perhaps he should learn to take more effective shots.

ChrisZona

Quote from: KansasCityCats on January 01, 2025, 05:10:59 PMNobody is consistently sitting, in lieu of Delly. We have plenty of depth and we could play smaller lineups, appending on the opponent.

Flagg is an awful shooter. His significant minutes is a reflection of poor coaching. If a player has the worst 3 point percentage on the team, perhaps he should learn to take more effective shots.

Lmao

arxpert

Quote from: KansasCityCats on January 01, 2025, 05:10:59 PMNobody is consistently sitting, in lieu of Delly. We have plenty of depth and we could play smaller lineups, appending on the opponent.

Flagg is an awful shooter. His significant minutes is a reflection of poor coaching. If a player has the worst 3 point percentage on the team, perhaps he should learn to take more effective shots.

By your metric, no one should be playing because no one is good enough at shooting a basketball consistently!

KansasCityCats

233 D-1 schools AVERAGE better than Flagg's shooting percentage. If everybody shooting 44% from the field received the attention that Flagg gets on ESPN, we wouldn't hear about anything else...

arxpert

Quote from: KansasCityCats on January 05, 2025, 09:06:57 AM233 D-1 schools AVERAGE better than Flagg's shooting percentage. If everybody shooting 44% from the field received the attention that Flagg gets on ESPN, we wouldn't hear about anything else...

Those percentages are very much skewed. Obviously there are going to be Centers that average 65% from the field on layups and dunks. Then there will be volume shooters like Love who shoot 30% or whatever too. Flagg has a complete bag of tools to utilize. His 42% or whatever is not equal to most others. Carter Bryant has those same tools. He can shoot it deep, he can finish with dunks. He can pull up in the midrange.

The issue is whether he gets to try or not. Flagg can get 22 shots a game and hit 11. Those 11 will be a mix of all 3 levels. Deep, Mid, Inside + FT's.

Carter has proven he can do the same thing, but he doesn't get shots. Caleb Love has not proven he can do all 3 well enough to justify his volume of shooting.

KansasCityCats

That's fair.  Big men take higher percentage shots.  For comparison purposes, Keshod, Pelle, KJ and Jaden all exceeded 44% FG last season.  Delly and Love are the only two Cats that are currently shooting below that average.

If you want to compare his 3PT% with the average of each D-1 school, he would tie Austin Peay, Western Carolina, East Texas A&M and Tennessee State at 320th in the nation.  Arizona isn't much higher but they were #37, #20 and #97 over the past 3 years (prior to this season's shooting struggles). 

arxpert

I think Tommy has never really focused on 3pt shooting and it befuddles me since he wants to run and gun. The strategy of overpowered opponents with size that we got used to with 4 Loko Koloko, Tubelis, and Ballo was an embarrassment of riches. We really just had such a high volume that we were able to overcome Kerr Kriisa, Boswell, Love, and even Mamba Mathurin at times shooting so poorly from 3.

I seriously wonder why Tommy had no interest in pursuing Koby Brea (now of Kentucky). We literally got to see him up close and personal at Dayton in March Madness. Brea doesn't even start for Pope's Kentucky. He gets his shots though.

I am just waiting to see Del Orso and Caleb Love play a Fogg + York role TOGETHER. Not doing more than that. I know we won't get it out of Love, but Orso would be the best way to start that process. This is Bradley's team.

I also have no problem seeing more of E-Man on the floor. Stephen may be an X-Factor. Tobe is not Dennis Rodman. He can't be expected to bang around with 6'11" guys.

At least Carter can stretch the floor and pull a "4" or even "5" out of the lane... thus opening a path for someone like Bradley to get to the rim or Love/Dell to get inside then Dish to a cutting KJ...

This requires Half Court Basketball though.

KansasCityCats

It's simple. Shooting a high number of threes rarely translates into success.

Creighton and Alabama were both top-5 in 3-pointers made last season. They were the only two Sweet 16 teams in the Top-40 of the respective stat. During the prior season, it was Bama (again) and UConn at #27. In Lloyd's first season, Purdue (at #61) had the most threes made of the Sweet 16 field.

Our staff found an entire team full of players that "could" stretch opposing defenses and shoot from the perimeter but they would be stupid to base an entire roster on taking poor percentage shots.

Brea was pursued by Arizona but we didn't want to pay a one dimensional player that is a liability on defense. He's an average defender, sub par ball handler and great shooter. Not worth outbidding the rest of the bluebloods.

arxpert

Quote from: KansasCityCats on January 14, 2025, 06:10:04 AMBrea was pursued by Arizona but we didn't want to pay a one dimensional player that is a liability on defense. He's an average defender, sub par ball handler and great shooter

You basically described every player Tommy brought in from the Mid Major ranks. I see no difference at all. Also Tommy isn't opening his checkbook. Brea simply didn't want to join.

So Tommy found the Walmart brand versions of very top transfer.


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