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Sometimes you lose games when your
head coach is asleep at the wheel.

TucsonTruckStop

Del Orso gets pushed around. He is KKrisa reincarnate. Does 1 thing well and everything else is mid. Just can't have him in there when you already have liabilities in Tre, KJ, CB, HV and Awaka. Plus, He and Love are both low efficiency volume shooters.
CB is not playing more minutes because he is always out of position.
This team won't sniff the top 25 again this year.
The good news is there are some bad teams in the B12 this year(Okl St, TCU, KState). Just not enough to get the required wins for a tourney bid.

arxpert

Quote from: TucsonTruckStop on December 23, 2024, 10:08:25 PMDel Orso gets pushed around. He is KKrisa reincarnate. Does 1 thing well and everything else is mid. Just can't have him in there when you already have liabilities in Tre, KJ, CB, HV and Awaka. Plus, He and Love are both low efficiency volume shooters.
CB is not playing more minutes because he is always out of position.
This team won't sniff the top 25 again this year.
The good news is there are some bad teams in the B12 this year(Okl St, TCU, KState). Just not enough to get the required wins for a tourney bid.

If Conrad were the full time PG, then Dell Orso would be a good catch and shoot player / motor man spot up shooter like Rip Hamilton was for many years. Just needs to run around, get to his spots, get the ball on a line from Conrad, then hit his shots from outside and midrange. Asking Tony Taco to dribble to the rim is stupid.

Carter can do anything. He just needs the offense to run through him.

Tommy won't do any of the above, but this is the type of team we have. Half Court sets. High IQ PG. Slow the game down every time that we aren't in an obvious transition scenario. Feed the bigs. March to the FT line.

That is not Tommy's style. So we will just try to play for 75-100 possessions a game and go 25% from the field hoping to win by sheer volume alone.

Defensively, there are Presses we could do all game that would work. There are zones we can play that would work. Man to Man is a problem when we don't have guys who want to guard the deeper 3pt shots. Daring people to take 32 footers is not smart in today's game. That is a normal NBA level shot now.

Forcing players off the 3pt line into our Bigs is something that Tommy can coach up, but he refuses.

Carter can play multiple positions. He doesn't have to be boxed into any 1 spot. There are many times he could play the 2 on offense and the 4 on defense. It is all about the "System". Tommy doesn't like to Coach. He just wants us to be the Warriors out there when we have no shooters.

It really is the "round peg/square hole" theory.

KansasCityCats

For reference, Dell'Orso is shooting 44.7% from deep. If he took enough attempts to qualify, he'd be the 34th best percentage shooter in the country. He also made 12 of his last 21 two point attempts, which shows that he isn't completely one dimensional.

His defense has drastically improved over the past three games. I don't know if Lloyd threatened to reduce playing time or if he just woke up. Regardless, he's getting better.

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I GOT A FEVER, AND THE ONLY PRESCRIPTION
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arxpert

Quote from: KansasCityCats on December 24, 2024, 05:37:53 AMFor reference, Dell'Orso is shooting 44.7% from deep. If he took enough attempts to qualify, he'd be the 34th best percentage shooter in the country. He also made 12 of his last 21 two point attempts, which shows that he isn't completely one dimensional.

His defense has drastically improved over the past three games. I don't know if Lloyd threatened to reduce playing time or if he just woke up. Regardless, he's getting better.

I've said many times he represents Gabe York or Kyle Fogg for this team. Both players vastly underrated on their respective teams, but "pieces of the puzzle" when needed. Orso is a much better spot shooter than he is a creator. Can he pump fake, drive into the lane and try to float one off the glass? Sure. He can. But should he be trying to "takeover a game" like that? No. Absolutely Not. If that is what you think he should be doing then Tommy has constructed the team wrong AND is coaching it wrong. We have other guys for those purposes like KJ Lewis, Bradley, Love or Bryant.

Conrad is the true PG on the roster. The rest are just small SGs. Carter is the only player who can play 3 positions at a top level. KJ can play 2. The rest are basically stuck playing together when they all play the same type of game. There are ways to fix that with coaching, but Tommy doesn't seem up for the task this year and is watching it play out more than actively fixing it. And please, do not say he is tinkering with the lineups game to game. We all know that within the first substitutions the rotation goes back to the same ole, same ole.

KansasCityCats

I agree with a majority of the first paragraph, although I think Dell'Orso is more aggressive on offense because others have been struggling from the floor lately. Somebody has to score...

We've seen every combination of lineups throughout the season, ranging from Awaka at Center to Townsend at SF. The minutes per game for each of our players are completely erratic because Lloyd mixes up the roster for the entire 40 minutes (Love ranges from 21 to 40 MPG).

 Im glad that the inconsistency from the field has allowed guys like Conrad to get an opportunity...

Jdmarti

I am interested  to see how dellorso plays against top competition in big 12, I do worry about his defense, but if you leave him open it's going up.

Atleast you have to guard dellorso  from 3, when kj is out there, he doesn't  wanna shoot those, kj. Hopefully  is shooting hundreds of
3 pointers in practice.

Tre townsend  rebounding is a concern, at times I think bryant should be out there at the 4, but townsend  scores in the post.

arxpert

Quote from: KansasCityCats on December 24, 2024, 05:37:53 AMCarter Bryant

For the record and for reference:

Cooper Flagg is shooting 42.1% from the field. So when you bring up Carter Bryant's poor shooting %, I just simply don't want to hear it really. He doesn't get enough chances to even show his talent, but in limited chances he is proving as viable as anyone with his 41.5% from the field.

TucsonTruckStop

Quote from: KansasCityCats on December 24, 2024, 05:37:53 AMFor reference, Dell'Orso is shooting 44.7% from deep. If he took enough attempts to qualify, he'd be the 34th best percentage shooter in the country. He also made 12 of his last 21 two point attempts, which shows that he isn't completely one dimensional.

His defense has drastically improved over the past three games. I don't know if Lloyd threatened to reduce playing time or if he just woke up. Regardless, he's getting better.
Who are you sitting to play Del Orso? You absolutely cannot play 2 of the following at the same time: Del Orso, Tobe, Tre, Love. The defense is bad enough, but multiples of this group and the other team is scoring at will.


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