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Title: Tommy Lloyd says Arizona could have a good couple of weeks recruiting
Post by: WILD on May 05, 2021, 07:56:56 PM
https://twitter.com/AlecWhite_UA/status/1390114655473786881

Read the full Q&A with Lloyd below
https://tucson.com/sports/arizonawildcats/basketball/tommy-lloyd-already-enjoying-small-town-feel-and-great-people-in-tucson/article_f3520516-addb-11eb-ae5c-1be02bf7019a.amp.html?__twitter_impression=true
Title: Re: Tommy Lloyd says Arizona could have a good couple of weeks recruiting
Post by: Jdmarti on May 06, 2021, 03:36:39 AM
I sure hope lloyd is right  for me it would start with landing ty ty an kaluma.
Title: Re: Tommy Lloyd says Arizona could have a good couple of weeks recruiting
Post by: something1 on May 06, 2021, 07:07:08 AM
That was an encouraging article and a good reminder that CTL is so new to the job still. This time in June I'll predict we have half the open number of scholarships as we currently do...he'll have locked up a couple and we'll all be pretty excited.
Title: Re: Tommy Lloyd says Arizona could have a good couple of weeks recruiting
Post by: mvpreed2 on May 06, 2021, 07:18:27 AM
I would rather him sit on the open scholarships Arizona has now, then to try to accept commitments just to have bodies.
I have seen it done in desperation, but to me, I am not going to accept a commit from a player that I would have not normally accepted one from if everything was "normal" which is a subjective term.
Title: Re: Tommy Lloyd says Arizona could have a good couple of weeks recruiting
Post by: GoCatZ on May 19, 2021, 07:31:38 AM
https://twitter.com/jasonscheer/status/1394752514294046720
Title: Re: Tommy Lloyd says Arizona could have a good couple of weeks recruiting
Post by: KansasCityCats on May 19, 2021, 10:22:14 AM
If the article is accurate, I'm glad that we didn't land Kaluma.  We don't need another 6'8" kid standing along the perimeter and throwing up 3's.

We currently need a backup PF that can stretch opposing D's and play with his back to the basket if necessary.

I assume Lloyd will find a grad transfer or an international prospect to become Tubelis' backup within the next month.
Title: Re: Tommy Lloyd says Arizona could have a good couple of weeks recruiting
Post by: arxpert on May 19, 2021, 12:43:53 PM
Quote from: GoCatZ on May 19, 2021, 07:31:38 AM
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Exactly. The Big L is lucky to be riding what's left of Miller's team this year. He would never have gotten this job if Miller didn't have the vision to bring in a batch of international players at one time. Hope to see Tubelis and Benedict get better. If those 2 specifically regress then I have to think it is a major red flag in the coaching ability.
Title: Re: Tommy Lloyd says Arizona could have a good couple of weeks recruiting
Post by: KansasCityCats on May 19, 2021, 02:01:18 PM
Judging the progression of two players' abilities over a 10 month span can't define the coaching ability for a new staff that is taking over a young team that needs time adjusting to a new system.

Lloyd inherited a nice roster and I think he'll succeed...but it will take 2-3 years before Arizona is back on top of the PAC-12.

Even if we didn't have foreign players on the roster, he would have taken this job in a heartbeat. Great opportunity for a lifelong assistant coach in a mid major conference (not to diminish Gonzaga's accomplishments during Few's tenure).
Title: Re: Tommy Lloyd says Arizona could have a good couple of weeks recruiting
Post by: Jdmarti on May 19, 2021, 10:35:26 PM
I have mixed feelings about the article from scheer I think Arizona  must get a pg. An a pf.


I like kerr but he is unproven in collage at pg. I would like  a
expericed  pg.  Or a really talented one maybe a 5 star caliber one.
At pf  we must get athletic  4  we need a replacement  for azulous.
These are must in my opinon.
Lloyd  can take all the time he needs to find these players , I think this will decide
If we are a NCAA tournament  team or not.

An the only
Title: Re: Tommy Lloyd says Arizona could have a good couple of weeks recruiting
Post by: arxpert on May 20, 2021, 01:08:19 AM
Quote from: KansasCityCats on May 19, 2021, 02:01:18 PM
Judging the progression of two players' abilities over a 10 month span can't define the coaching ability for a new staff that is taking over a young team that needs time adjusting to a new system.

Lloyd inherited a nice roster and I think he'll succeed...but it will take 2-3 years before Arizona is back on top of the PAC-12.

Even if we didn't have foreign players on the roster, he would have taken this job in a heartbeat. Great opportunity for a lifelong assistant coach in a mid major conference (not to diminish Gonzaga's accomplishments during Few's tenure).

It's not a new coaching staff. Unless Murphy and JET are being used like Miller was last year and will be forced out after next season, then it's 1 new coach with whatever system he thinks he can implement - which may or may not look like Gonzaga's unless The Big L has coaching strategy of his own separate from Few. I do suspect, similar to Football, that these assistants and consultants are being kept around as nostalgic propaganda more than as building blocks (JET, Bruschi for example)

And Never in a million years would Lloyd have been considered for this position nor offered it without all of the international flavor on this roster. It's really no secret why almost every American player bolted. Tube and Benedict having better seasons is going to be the benchmark to go off for me. I don't care if other people want to bend their standards, I'm not.

The Big L missed on Ty Washington and Kaluma because he is not the man they wanted to play for. That's all. Kaluma picking the "Creighton Plantation" over Arizona speaks loud volumes to me. Either this coach can recruit American 5 stars or he isn't the right man for this job. It shouldn't take 2-3 years of 3 and 4 star recruits. It's very cut and dry for me though some members here wished Mid Major Mentality into existence and now will have to live through it.
Title: Re: Tommy Lloyd says Arizona could have a good couple of weeks recruiting
Post by: KansasCityCats on May 20, 2021, 06:26:52 AM
The story leaked that Kaluma didn't come to Arizona because Lloyd refused to force a square peg into a round hole.  Kaluma "exclusively" wanted to play the 3 so he can jack up a bunch of 3's and Lloyd wanted him to be a versatile big man (because we need a backup 4).  the kid was obviously not a team player & it's OK to let him go. Tyty's father ran the recruitment & Coach Cal obviously made the sales pitch that he could be another one and done PG in Lexington.  Again...that's OK because we need stability when restarting a program; a short-term player is not the answer at the point.

Lloyd was far from nostalgic propaganda in Spokane.  He was outspoken within the program and was a huge contributor as Few's right hand man (similar to Rosborough and Lute).  He was an international recruiter because the Zags needed a niche to bring in high-end talent.  They were a small school in a small town within a small conference.  they rarely went after 5* kids because it's hard to get commitments...even if you continue to win.

We learned our lesson that 5* recruiting doesn't work.  Lloyd is building a program full of kids that WANT to be here and it will be fun to see the progression of success over the next 2-3 seasons.
Title: Re: Tommy Lloyd says Arizona could have a good couple of weeks recruiting
Post by: mvpreed2 on May 20, 2021, 09:41:21 AM
I believe what KCC is saying.

CTL is not going to allow the ranking to dictate him bringing in the talent.
I wish CSM focused on getting the talent that would fit the type of atmosphere he wanted the program to have.