With one season coming to a close, that means portal season is about to kick into gear!
We know how this goes; we post them, and I will add them.
Commits
G - Jaden Bradley (Alabama) - Arizona
F - Keshad Johnson - (San Diego State) - Arizona
G - Caleb Love (North Carolina) - Arizona
Prospect (School)
G - Taran Armstrong (Cal Baptist) - NBL
G - TJ Bamba (Washington State) - Villanova
F - Isaiah Barnes (Michigan) - Tulsa
G - Khalif Battle (Temple) - Arkansas
G - RaeQuan Battle (Montana State) - West Virginia
F - Parker Braun (Santa Clara) - Kansas
G - Nate Calmese (Lamar)
G - D'Marco Dunn (North Carolina)
G - Aaron Estrada (Hofstra) - Alabama
F - Graham Ike (Wyoming) - Gonzaga
F - Arthur Kaluma (Creighton) - Kansas State
G - Chance McMillan (Grand Canyon) - Texas Tech
G - Mike Mitchell Jr. (Pepperdine) - Minnesota
G - Ryan Nembhard (Creighton) - Gonzaga
F - Olivier Nkamhoua (Tennessee)
F - Julian Phillips (Tennessee)
G - Jonathan Pierre (Nova Southeastern) - Memphis
G - Hunter Sallis - (Gonzaga) - Wake Forest
G - Tre White (USC) - Louisville
G - Latrell Whitesell Jr. (Cal State Fullerton) - Alabama
F - Darrion Williams (Nevada) - Texas Tech
you can add
- Taran Armstrong https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/player/_/id/4896850/taran-armstrong
and
- Khalif Battle https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/player/_/id/4431719/khalif-battle
to the list
Are these two interested because there's an assumption that Bal is transferring? I hope not because Adama's potential to improve as an upperclassmen gives me more optimism than bringing in another "loaner" through the portal.
Isaiah Barnes SF Michigan
Quote from: KansasCityCats on March 20, 2023, 10:24:55 AM
Are these two interested because there's an assumption that Bal is transferring? I hope not because Adama's potential to improve as an upperclassmen gives me more optimism than bringing in another "loaner" through the portal.
I won't be surprised if Bal, Dylan, and Boswell transfer out.
If Tubelis and Ballo both declare for the NBA, I'd be shocked if Dylan transfers. If our bigs hang around, I'd still be slightly surprised because he and Veesaar know that they're the future of our frontcourt.
Boswell seems to love everything about the program. He came to Tucson early with no expectations to play and Lloyd worked him in immediately. He should start alongside Kerr next season.
Bal is obviously the wildcard. Hoping he sticks around because his athleticism is amazing. Tons of potential.
Quote from: KansasCityCats on March 20, 2023, 10:24:55 AM
Are these two interested because there's an assumption that Bal is transferring? I hope not because Adama's potential to improve as an upperclassmen gives me more optimism than bringing in another "loaner" through the portal.
Clearly we do not know, but my guess is that Lloyd is looking to bring in someone that is going to fill that scoring role from the perimeter that is going to be vacated by Ramey?
#BearDown
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Quote from: KansasCityCats on March 20, 2023, 10:24:55 AM
Are these two interested because there's an assumption that Bal is transferring? I hope not because Adama's potential to improve as an upperclassmen gives me more optimism than bringing in another "loaner" through the portal.
Clearly we do not know, but my guess is that Lloyd is looking to bring in someone that is going to fill that scoring role from the perimeter that is going to be vacated by Ramey?
#BearDown
I was hoping that Boswell and Bal would both absorb those minutes, it would be ideal if BamBam started the point and Kerr slid into Ramey's spot
Quote from: KansasCityCats on March 22, 2023, 06:02:02 AM
Quote from: mvpreed2 on March 21, 2023, 08:30:51 PM
Quote from: KansasCityCats on March 20, 2023, 10:24:55 AM
Are these two interested because there's an assumption that Bal is transferring? I hope not because Adama's potential to improve as an upperclassmen gives me more optimism than bringing in another "loaner" through the portal.
Clearly we do not know, but my guess is that Lloyd is looking to bring in someone that is going to fill that scoring role from the perimeter that is going to be vacated by Ramey?
#BearDown
I was hoping that Boswell and Bal would both absorb those minutes, it would be ideal if BamBam started the point and Kerr slid into Ramey's spot
I was not a fan of the Boswell/Kriisa backcourt before the 2022-23 season.
After seeing it in action, I understood why some of us were in favor of it.
As for me, you give up a lot of size with both guard being 6'2 or so.
I would like Lloyd to get bigger and more athletic on the perimeter next season.
You want to run, but you lack the athletes to be able to play that type of style.
That Lute team that had Shakur/Adams/Williams and Igoudala is a very good example of the blueprint I am talking about.
You bring in the athletes that are able to play above the rim to allow that uptempo transition style to be more lethal when ran.
I know that it won't happen, but one can only dream right?
P.S. I really hope Lloyd does NOT go after either one of those USC transfers.
#BearDown
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Quote from: KansasCityCats on March 22, 2023, 06:02:02 AM
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Quote from: KansasCityCats on March 20, 2023, 10:24:55 AM
Are these two interested because there's an assumption that Bal is transferring? I hope not because Adama's potential to improve as an upperclassmen gives me more optimism than bringing in another "loaner" through the portal.
Clearly we do not know, but my guess is that Lloyd is looking to bring in someone that is going to fill that scoring role from the perimeter that is going to be vacated by Ramey?
#BearDown
I was hoping that Boswell and Bal would both absorb those minutes, it would be ideal if BamBam started the point and Kerr slid into Ramey's spot
I was not a fan of the Boswell/Kriisa backcourt before the 2022-23 season.
After seeing it in action, I understood why some of us were in favor of it.
As for me, you give up a lot of size with both guard being 6'2 or so.
I would like Lloyd to get bigger and more athletic on the perimeter next season.
You want to run, but you lack the athletes to be able to play that type of style.
That Lute team that had Shakur/Adams/Williams and Igoudala is a very good example of the blueprint I am talking about.
You bring in the athletes that are able to play above the rim to allow that uptempo transition style to be more lethal when ran.
I know that it won't happen, but one can only dream right?
P.S. I really hope Lloyd does NOT go after either one of those USC transfers.
#BearDown
The flaw in Tommy's system that you are trying to put in words is that Tommy has an extreme lack of 3 and D players on the Wing. Or 3 and D players in general. And none on the horizon either. Tommy has turned us into a Mid Major unfortunately.
Please add Graham Ike (Wyoming) to the list
arxpert,
Will you ever answer questions aimed at you? Or will you just constantly be obsessed with hating our coach?
Sometimes there is addition by subtraction.
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Quote from: mvpreed2 on March 22, 2023, 10:25:29 PM
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Quote from: mvpreed2 on March 21, 2023, 08:30:51 PM
Quote from: KansasCityCats on March 20, 2023, 10:24:55 AM
Are these two interested because there's an assumption that Bal is transferring? I hope not because Adama's potential to improve as an upperclassmen gives me more optimism than bringing in another "loaner" through the portal.
Clearly we do not know, but my guess is that Lloyd is looking to bring in someone that is going to fill that scoring role from the perimeter that is going to be vacated by Ramey?
#BearDown
I was hoping that Boswell and Bal would both absorb those minutes, it would be ideal if BamBam started the point and Kerr slid into Ramey's spot
I was not a fan of the Boswell/Kriisa backcourt before the 2022-23 season.
After seeing it in action, I understood why some of us were in favor of it.
As for me, you give up a lot of size with both guard being 6'2 or so.
I would like Lloyd to get bigger and more athletic on the perimeter next season.
You want to run, but you lack the athletes to be able to play that type of style.
That Lute team that had Shakur/Adams/Williams and Igoudala is a very good example of the blueprint I am talking about.
You bring in the athletes that are able to play above the rim to allow that uptempo transition style to be more lethal when ran.
I know that it won't happen, but one can only dream right?
P.S. I really hope Lloyd does NOT go after either one of those USC transfers.
#BearDown
The flaw in Tommy's system that you are trying to put in words is that Tommy has an extreme lack of 3 and D players on the Wing. Or 3 and D players in general. And none on the horizon either. Tommy has turned us into a Mid Major unfortunately.
Good. Mid-majors won TEN of the first round NCAA games, including Xavier. I love the idea of Arizona recruiting 4-year players that want to win and earn degrees, as opposed to signing up for a 1-year NIL deal and bailing on the program after taking a ridiculous amount of contested jumpers.
Quote from: KansasCityCats on March 23, 2023, 08:12:18 AM
Quote from: arxpert on March 22, 2023, 10:36:27 PM
Quote from: mvpreed2 on March 22, 2023, 10:25:29 PM
Quote from: KansasCityCats on March 22, 2023, 06:02:02 AM
Quote from: mvpreed2 on March 21, 2023, 08:30:51 PM
Quote from: KansasCityCats on March 20, 2023, 10:24:55 AM
Are these two interested because there's an assumption that Bal is transferring? I hope not because Adama's potential to improve as an upperclassmen gives me more optimism than bringing in another "loaner" through the portal.
Clearly we do not know, but my guess is that Lloyd is looking to bring in someone that is going to fill that scoring role from the perimeter that is going to be vacated by Ramey?
#BearDown
I was hoping that Boswell and Bal would both absorb those minutes, it would be ideal if BamBam started the point and Kerr slid into Ramey's spot
I was not a fan of the Boswell/Kriisa backcourt before the 2022-23 season.
After seeing it in action, I understood why some of us were in favor of it.
As for me, you give up a lot of size with both guard being 6'2 or so.
I would like Lloyd to get bigger and more athletic on the perimeter next season.
You want to run, but you lack the athletes to be able to play that type of style.
That Lute team that had Shakur/Adams/Williams and Igoudala is a very good example of the blueprint I am talking about.
You bring in the athletes that are able to play above the rim to allow that uptempo transition style to be more lethal when ran.
I know that it won't happen, but one can only dream right?
P.S. I really hope Lloyd does NOT go after either one of those USC transfers.
#BearDown
The flaw in Tommy's system that you are trying to put in words is that Tommy has an extreme lack of 3 and D players on the Wing. Or 3 and D players in general. And none on the horizon either. Tommy has turned us into a Mid Major unfortunately.
Good. Mid-majors won TEN of the first round NCAA games, including Xavier. I love the idea of Arizona recruiting 4-year players that want to win and earn degrees, as opposed to signing up for a 1-year NIL deal and bailing on the program after taking a ridiculous amount of contested jumpers.
Good ole Mid Major Miller playing for an Elite 8 in Year 1 with a group of said "4 year" players who have no real basketball futures is an amazing story.
Interesting why no one likes to say Mid Major Tommy though. Are you/they all in denial? Call it as it is or don't call it at all I say.
Never had a problem with Miller in Arizona. Never had a problem with Lloyd at Gonzaga. When Arizona turns into a Mid Major, I have a problem.
It might take the CBox 1 more year of this before they fully crack although I see so many anti-Tommy comments there already...it is very sad to see. I may be hated for enjoying the last 10 years of Arizona basketball, but I am consistent. It was a phenomenal product regular and postseason. So far we only have the mid-major aspect covered with Tommy. Year 3 is a make it or break it year for Tommy whether you think so or not. The big pockets aren't going to put up with this again.
It's not that hard to just say I was right about this, but I am enjoying the resistance tbh. It is more validating.
If Miller recruited players to Arizona that were similar to his existing roster at Xavier, he would have undoubtedly enjoyed more postseason success...and drastically less kids transferring out of the program.
It's simple: 5* talent is strictly a short term plan.
Please add Mike Mitchell Jr. - Pepperdine
https://247sports.com/Player/Mike-Mitchell-Jr-46086001/
Graham Ike
Wyoming
Forward
Junior
6'9 225lbs
Aurora, Colorado
Mike Mitchell, Jr.
Pepperdine
Sophomore
Guard
6'2 185lbs
San Jose, CA
Ike would be a nice option if one or both of our bigs declare for the draft.
Mitchell would only be beneficial if the staff can limit his bad shot selection. We already dumped a PG with high assists, awful FG% and substantial turnovers.
https://mobile.twitter.com/Andrew__Slater/status/1640517406710808578
Please add
Quote from: mvpreed2 on March 26, 2023, 03:43:39 PM
Mike Mitchell, Jr.
Pepperdine
Sophomore
Guard
6'2 185lbs
San Jose, CA
I like that he slashes to the basket, giving him those and 1 opportunities!
https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/35971710/caleb-love-leave-north-carolina-enter-transfer-portal
I believe Caleb Love was originally recruited by Steve Robinson...so I wouldn't be surprised if he started alongside Boswell next season.
That would be a nice backcourt if our staff could improve his shot selection. Defensively, Love is solid (and he has a high basketball IQ).
Quote from: KansasCityCats on March 28, 2023, 01:21:23 PM
https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/35971710/caleb-love-leave-north-carolina-enter-transfer-portal
I believe Caleb Love was originally recruited by Steve Robinson...so I wouldn't be surprised if he started alongside Boswell next season.
That would be a nice backcourt if our staff could improve his shot selection. Defensively, Love is solid (and he has a high basketball IQ).
Not sure where you are going with this one. Love is the guy who will take 18 shots per game and make about 30% of them. That's not the formula Tom Tom has been using at all. If Tommy reloaded with these types of players we would have a lower ceiling and a higher floor. That's fine if you don't care about OOC, Conference Titles, or Conference Tournament titles. It could be a formula for assembling a 1-off team that can make a Sweet 16 as a 6-10 seed though.
Love has been misguided because UNC has been running an erratic offense since Roy/Steve left and structure would allow him to truly showcase his talent. When you watch the Heels, it's obvious that Love is a special talent. Under the right system, he could be stellar.
Arizona seems like a realistic destination because of Robinson's relationship, Kerr's departure and our free-flowing offense.
We'll see if Love buys into the idea of sharing the ball...
TJ Bamba
Washington State
Junior
6'5 215lbs
Bronx, NY
Whoa...Bamba will get a lot of attention from the big schools.
Quote from: KansasCityCats on March 28, 2023, 04:27:52 PM
Whoa...Bamba will get a lot of attention from the big schools.
Agreed.
You can start to see the business decision(s) made by some of these prospects.
You go to a "smaller" school, and earn your stripes.
When the time is right, you enter the portal, and let the big schools come knocking.
Of all the prospects Arizona is after, I see at least one more school that I would consider "big" to be after them.
The sad part is for every Armstrong/Bamba in the portal, there are dozens more that have that same plan.
The difference is most of them won't be able to level up, and won't be able to go back to their previous program.
The portal is a gift and curse wrapped up by big business masked as NIL deals.
#BearDown
Former 4-Star Nimari Burnett, who was recruited to AZ, is in the portal.
Ha. Thanks for the update.
Pretty sure Lloyd wouldn't consider becoming his 2rd program in as many years. Burnett needs a lot of work if he wants to be a high D-1 contributor.
Mitchell jr not an option anymore
https://twitter.com/TiptonEdits/status/1641111201638760453?s=20
Quote from: WerderBremen on March 29, 2023, 10:20:13 AM
Mitchell jr not an option anymore
[tweet]1641111201638760453[/tweet]?s=20
That's a bummer, I really liked that kids games allot..He slashes, and create his own shot, something this years team didn't have
Anyone know if we have any contact going on with Dalton Knecht out of Northern Colorado. This guy is legit. Id be all in on him.
I hope so. That would be an ideal replacement for Henderson.
Knecht has skills very similar to Tyler Herro.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GPcPHFF0lQs
Knecht,looks good to bad it does not appear Lloyd is interested he will probably be off the board soon.
I really hope that changes, JD.
Hunter Dickenson, Center formerly of Michigan. With Tommy's recent Heel Turn, I wouldn't doubt he puts a bid in.
Any chance Lloyd reaches out to Hunter Sallis?
Quote from: arxpert on March 31, 2023, 10:22:57 PM
Hunter Dickenson, Center formerly of Michigan. With Tommy's recent Heel Turn, I wouldn't doubt he puts a bid in.
I really hope he doesn't.
He is a bigger version of what Tubelis is.
Unless Tubelis told you he is going pro, I would stay away from this.
You still have Anderson/Veesaar on your roster (at this point) so why continue to over-recruit when you
KNOW that is going to push those young thoroughbreds out the door, and discount your ability to develop talent?
#BearDown
Quote from: ZonaBBB on March 30, 2023, 08:50:26 AM
Knecht has skills very similar to Tyler Herro.
In my opinion, Knecht is what we all hope Larsson would be able to develop into.
That is his ceiling, but we can see that Larsson is not going to be that guy to create his own shot off the dribble.
I
REALLY hope Larsson takes another step in his development, but I am not very hopeful as I type this.
#BearDown
Arizona has reached out. https://twitter.com/GoodmanHoops/status/1639685244667166722?s=20
I can save all of you some time.
If Tubelis returns, all this team needs are 3 transfers that are 3 and D players. Simple as can be. Boswell, Tubelis, Ballo do what they do. The only thing Tommy has ever lacked is 3 and D. Dalen Terry was becoming that down the stretch for us, but Tommy hindered his growth as a shooter too much and it was too little too late.
So in the litany of all these posts, just find me 3 guys who are 6'6 to 6'8 who can play defense and rip 6-8 3's per game collectively and this is another 1 Seed leve type team the way it is currently constructed.. and yes, Pelle STILL needs to be the 6th man.
AS LONG AS TOMMY WILL PLAY MORE THAN 6.5 PLAYERS.
To be added:
Jonathan Pierre
https://twitter.com/ThePortalReport/status/1643372613098455042?t=OitBeGeqcHrVPuLWjaJhiQ&s=09
Aaron Estrada
https://twitter.com/DushawnLondon1/status/1643415482773504001?s=20
Also Chance Mcmillian
Also Hunter Sallis
A player I would be interested in from gonzaga would be dominic harris if I may add, he is athletic combo guard that could play a role off the bench, I know his numbers are not great, it appears he got lost in the shuffle with a foot injury in the 2021/2022 season an did not play, an mark few basically recruited over him.
I think he could still be a good player.
I have not heard arizona has contacted him though.
I'll take Tylor Perry. Tommy isn't smart enough to find a way to get him though. If Boswell stays, he would definitely be able to play side by side.
https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/player/_/id/4897518/tylor-perry
Absolutely. Perry would be an amazing backcourt addition. I'd personally prefer Nembhard if the rumors are true (because he has more than one season remaining) but either guy would fill in nicely for Ramey.
Darrion Williams
Nevada
Freshman
Forward
6'6 210lbs
Las Vegas, Nevada
Chance McMillan
Grand Canyon
Guard
Sophomore
6'3 185lbs
Vallejo, California
Ryan Nembhard
Creigton
Sophomore
Guard
6'0 170lbs
Aurora, Ontario (CAN)
Jonathan Pierre
Nova Southeastern (D2)
Sophomore
Guard
6'9 192lbs
Hallandale, Florida
Hunter Sallis
Gonzaga
Sophomore
Guard
6'5 180lbs
Omaha, Nebraska
Aaron Estrada
Hofstra
Senior
Guard
6'3 195lbs
Woodbury, New Jersey
UPDATED!
Prospects list has been updated with SIX new additions and attached highlights.
#BearDown
Lloyd has reached out to Hunter Sallis and has no interest in Dominick Harris.
Too bad I was hoping for harris.
He is familiar with both players from his time at gonzaga.
Barnes has committed to Tulsa
Love has committed to Michigan
Olivier Nkamhoua
Tennessee
Senior
Forward
6'9 236lbs
Helinski, Finland
Arthur Kaluma
Creighton
Sophomore
Forward
6'7 225lbs
Glendale, Arizona
Pierre is going to Memphis
Battle is going to Arkansas
Bamba committed to Villanova.
#BearDown
RJ Lewis
https://twitter.com/JonRothstein/status/1646879247884066819?t=XFHC15A8GlKLLnTINQv25g
RJ Luis
UMass
Freshman
Guard
Miami, Florida
Williams to Texas Tech
RaeQuan Battle
https://twitter.com/JonRothstein/status/1648701822347927552?s=20
Wrightsell https://twitter.com/TiptonEdits/status/1648762326579830797?s=20
RaeQuan Battle
Montana State
Junior
Guard
6'5 190lbs
Tulalip, Washington
Latrell Whitesell Jr.
Cal State Fullerton
Junior
Guard
6'3 189lbs
Omaha, Nebraska
McMillian to Texas Tech
https://twitter.com/ThePortalReport/status/1649210529762664450?s=20
Ike to the Zags
Nembhard to the Zags.
Maybe we should just close this thing.
Quote from: WerderBremen on April 21, 2023, 07:40:58 AM
Nembhard to the Zags.
Maybe we should just close this thing.
No we should not.
If nothing else, these lists that I help create are for ease of information, and for research purposes for those that want to go back to a specific recruiting class to see who went where.
Fwiw, the few prospects that are on this list, some of them are (and were) some of my favorites that I wanted to land at Arizona.
#BearDown
Mcmillian to Texas Tech
It really looks bad and Coach Lloyd has really put himself in this spot by only offering a handful of kids, but there are still a few quality guys in the portal to land. First is to lock up Carter Bryant for 2024.
What we have for 2023:
Boswell came in early and showed already that he will be a leader on this team.
Larsson showed his best coming off the bench but was certainly a solid player either way.
Ballo is a big guy in the middle and should improve yet a little more in the off season.
KJ Lewis who actually looks like he will come in with some toughness and that is a good thing. Something we need.
Veesaar who is more of a stretch four as is most of the bigs from europe. Hope he stretches well.
Anderson who actually has been underused and has some toughness that could have been critical last year.
Borovicanin who actually looked ok when in, but then again so did Bal and we see where he is.
Tubelis who is like a shadow hanging around because his Brother was here.
AND the potential for Tubelis to return?
https://twitter.com/247HSHoops/status/1649765280967532547?t=apKQOIph5L1xH7RuwzByPA&s=19
McLeod
Why?
Quote from: WerderBremen on April 23, 2023, 12:03:14 AM
[tweet]1649765280967532547[/tweet]?t=apKQOIph5L1xH7RuwzByPA&s=19
McLeod
Why?
I asked about our future plans at C in the box yesterday. This guy was the reason why I asked.
It makes more sense if you look at it with the thought in mind that Tom and the staff may view Dylan and Henri as being better utilized, and/or more natural fits, in Stretch 4 roles rather than as traditional Post Centers. But I really have no idea how they view our guys and their roles right now moving into next season.
Quote from: Little George on April 21, 2023, 02:04:38 PM
It really looks bad and Coach Lloyd has really put himself in this spot by only offering a handful of kids, but there are still a few quality guys in the portal to land. First is to lock up Carter Bryant for 2024.
What we have for 2023:
Boswell came in early and showed already that he will be a leader on this team.
Larsson showed his best coming off the bench but was certainly a solid player either way.
Ballo is a big guy in the middle and should improve yet a little more in the off season.
KJ Lewis who actually looks like he will come in with some toughness and that is a good thing. Something we need.
Veesaar who is more of a stretch four as is most of the bigs from europe. Hope he stretches well.
Anderson who actually has been underused and has some toughness that could have been critical last year.
Borovicanin who actually looked ok when in, but then again so did Bal and we see where he is.
Tubelis who is like a shadow hanging around because his Brother was here.
AND the potential for Tubelis to return?
The problem I am having with Anderson/Borovicanin & Veesaar (at the time of posting) is they are not ready to
REALLY contribute based on the last time I saw them in action for Arizona to be where they would like to be.
Another problem is I do not believe they are going to be able to make a big enough jump in development to cover the holes being vacated by both Henderson & Tubelis.
Add in that I do not believe Lewis is going to be filling the void left by Ramey?
We still have three holes in the projected starting lineup, and not a single body has walked in the door to fill one.
#BearDown
Naheem McLeod
Florida State
Sophomore
Center
7'4 255lbs
Philadelphia, Pennsylvania
Quote from: mvpreed2 on April 23, 2023, 01:31:05 AM
Quote from: Little George on April 21, 2023, 02:04:38 PM
It really looks bad and Coach Lloyd has really put himself in this spot by only offering a handful of kids, but there are still a few quality guys in the portal to land. First is to lock up Carter Bryant for 2024.
What we have for 2023:
Boswell came in early and showed already that he will be a leader on this team.
Larsson showed his best coming off the bench but was certainly a solid player either way.
Ballo is a big guy in the middle and should improve yet a little more in the off season.
KJ Lewis who actually looks like he will come in with some toughness and that is a good thing. Something we need.
Veesaar who is more of a stretch four as is most of the bigs from europe. Hope he stretches well.
Anderson who actually has been underused and has some toughness that could have been critical last year.
Borovicanin who actually looked ok when in, but then again so did Bal and we see where he is.
Tubelis who is like a shadow hanging around because his Brother was here.
AND the potential for Tubelis to return?
The problem I am having with Anderson/Borovicanin & Veesaar (at the time of posting) is they are not ready to REALLY contribute based on the last time I saw them in action for Arizona to be where they would like to be.
Another problem is I do not believe they are going to be able to make a big enough jump in development to cover the holes being vacated by both Henderson & Tubelis.
Add in that I do not believe Lewis is going to be filling the void left by Ramey?
We still have three holes in the projected starting lineup, and not a single body has walked in the door to fill one.
#BearDown
The only one to blame for the lack of development is Tommy Lloyd. I think all of these guys can play. Tommy doesn't let them. He is more stuck in his ways than Lute and Sean Miller combined. He is hindering talent at a rate unlike I have ever seen. Now that Miller's guys are basically gone AND he lost one of his own in Bal, I think Tommy has a lot to prove this year.
If he brings in "whatever is left over" in the portal AND they take over the minutes lost from the players that moved on over top of the players who stuck around, he will lose those players. (Henri, Dylan, Boro). You cannot spit in anyone's face that many times and expect any sort of loyalty or willingness to stick around.
Quote from: |ᴘ|ʀ|ʏ|ᴍ|ᴇ| on April 23, 2023, 12:24:47 AM
I asked about our future plans at C in the box yesterday. This guy was the reason why I asked.
It makes more sense if you look at it with the thought in mind that Tom and the staff may view Dylan and Henri as being better utilized, and/or more natural fits, in Stretch 4 roles rather than as traditional Post Centers. But I really have no idea how they view our guys and their roles right now moving into next season.
I am not going to speak on next season, but I believe Lloyd is trying to run an interchangeable lineup of bigs that won't be so predictable in-game.
Last two seasons, you knew where both Ballo/Tubelis were going to be no matter what.
I am assuming that Anderson/Veesaar would be able to be swapped out based on the play, or as simple as whomever gets down the court the fastest.
The best and worst part about all of this is that is does not appear to be any early indications of what roles these young prospects would be playing (including Borovicanin as well).
#BearDown
Quote from: arxpert on April 23, 2023, 01:36:35 AM
Quote from: mvpreed2 on April 23, 2023, 01:31:05 AM
Quote from: Little George on April 21, 2023, 02:04:38 PM
It really looks bad and Coach Lloyd has really put himself in this spot by only offering a handful of kids, but there are still a few quality guys in the portal to land. First is to lock up Carter Bryant for 2024.
What we have for 2023:
Boswell came in early and showed already that he will be a leader on this team.
Larsson showed his best coming off the bench but was certainly a solid player either way.
Ballo is a big guy in the middle and should improve yet a little more in the off season.
KJ Lewis who actually looks like he will come in with some toughness and that is a good thing. Something we need.
Veesaar who is more of a stretch four as is most of the bigs from europe. Hope he stretches well.
Anderson who actually has been underused and has some toughness that could have been critical last year.
Borovicanin who actually looked ok when in, but then again so did Bal and we see where he is.
Tubelis who is like a shadow hanging around because his Brother was here.
AND the potential for Tubelis to return?
The problem I am having with Anderson/Borovicanin & Veesaar (at the time of posting) is they are not ready to REALLY contribute based on the last time I saw them in action for Arizona to be where they would like to be.
Another problem is I do not believe they are going to be able to make a big enough jump in development to cover the holes being vacated by both Henderson & Tubelis.
Add in that I do not believe Lewis is going to be filling the void left by Ramey?
We still have three holes in the projected starting lineup, and not a single body has walked in the door to fill one.
#BearDown
The only one to blame for the lack of development is Tommy Lloyd. I think all of these guys can play. Tommy doesn't let them. He is more stuck in his ways than Lute and Sean Miller combined. He is hindering talent at a rate unlike I have ever seen. Now that Miller's guys are basically gone AND he lost one of his own in Bal, I think Tommy has a lot to prove this year.
If he brings in "whatever is left over" in the portal AND they take over the minutes lost from the players that moved on over top of the players who stuck around, he will lose those players. (Henri, Dylan, Boro). You cannot spit in anyone's face that many times and expect any sort of loyalty or willingness to stick around.
I too agree that they all can play.
Where we disagree is that Tommy is not letting them play.
I believe it is a "you can stay in as long as you produce" type of mantra, because in reality, the reason they are in the game is to simply give the veterans a breather.
Lloyd: "If you can't contribute while you are out on the floor, I will put someone is that can (and will) do it for me"
The biggest issue with this is if you don't allow them to have enough meaningful reps, you run into the situation Arizona is in now.
Three freshmen with little reps are being looked at to make huge leaps in their game because they are next up.
While I do agree that Lloyd is going to bring in some bodies.
I am not so sure that the bodies he will bring in will (1) fit the program, and (2) be good enough to have recruited to Arizona in the first place.
I am pessimistically concerned that Lloyd is not going to be able to recruit enough elite domestic talent, will resort (or settle?) for international prospects that may take longer to develop and have ready to step up and go.
#BearDown
Koloko seemed like a project and Lloyd developed him. Ballo seemed like a project st this point last year and Lloyd developed him.
It was one season where Veesaar and Anderson both played behind two All-conference post players. These two will be better next season but it wouldn't hurt to bring in one more body for depth purposes.
https://twitter.com/JonRothstein/status/1650152352270123011?s=20
Tre White
USC
Freshman
Guard
6'7 210lbs
Dallas, Texas
Whitesell to Bama
There goes our guy who could have backed up Boswell.
This off season reminds me alot of the last off season when we were waiting for guys to declare for the draft, an who would return an we missed alot of guys who could have made us better.
I understand Lloyd wanted nembhard an probably thought he was coming, but you must have other options .
Lloyd must change the way he recruits.
Jaden Bradley
https://twitter.com/trillydonovan/status/1650854218947780610?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1650854218947780610%7Ctwgr%5E1cead4bdae9801492a7419172bf7035115661327%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2F247sports.com%2Fcollege%2Farizona%2Fboard%2Farizona-basketball-forum-102968%2F
I follow this person twitter they seem to have info I was surprised reading that because I did not read that arizona contacted bradley at all.
We know Lloyd really wanted bradley out of high school, not sure arizona will get him but we will see I keep reading that he will probably go to Memphis, we will see though.
Stay away. Even if his involvement with the gun incident was minimal...stay away.
Quote from: KansasCityCats on April 25, 2023, 08:38:37 PM
Stay away. Even if his involvement with the gun incident was minimal...stay away.
If Lloyd is willing to entertain the option of recruiting him, that would lead me to believe that he believes it was an isolated incident.
I am not going to state my peace on the matter until the dust settles on this case, and his recruitment though.
I will add Bradley to the list...
#BearDown
Jaden Bradley
Alabama
Freshman
Guard
6'3 185lbs
Rochester, New York
https://twitter.com/TiptonEdits/status/1651254819473051648?s=20
https://twitter.com/JonRothstein/status/1651270584012009473?s=20
Estrada went to Bama
https://www.thehofstrachronicle.com/category/sports/2023/4/23/aaron-estrada-announced-commitment-to-alabama?format=amp
Arizona : 0 for 1477
Quote from: FOOS on April 26, 2023, 11:01:10 AM
Arizona : 0 for 1477
Consistency -- the mark of a winner. If only he didn't win so many games.
It makes you wonder how many of these kids Lloyd has actually recruited them,
Other than contacting them.
We know r2 for sure, it sounds like the big from Tennessee not sure really who else.
It's funny though when you need to fill atleast 5schollys .
Some players I would like arizona to pursue.
Tre white
Jaden bradley assuming he was not part of that shooting at all.
Another I would like .
Dominic harris
Lloyd knows him already an he really didn't play much at gonzaga his first he was behind alot of people he was buried on the bench.
2nd. year he sat out the whole year due to foot injury an they basically over recruited on guard.
Athletic combo guard that we could use right now.
I know no one agrees but I think hebis alot better than he has shown.
Quote from: Jdmarti on April 26, 2023, 02:36:35 PM
Another I would like .
Dominic harris
Lloyd knows him already an he really didn't play much at gonzaga his first he was behind alot of people he was buried on the bench.
2nd. year he sat out the whole year due to foot injury an they basically over recruited on guard.
Athletic combo guard that we could use right now.
I know no one agrees but I think hebis alot better than he has shown.
I suggested the Gonzaga players in the portal and it seemed nobody wanted Gonzaga retrteads.
Sad
https://twitter.com/AZBandCatSports/status/1651353123347369986?s=20
Parker Braun
Santa Clara
Senior
Forward
6'10 215lbs
Overland Park, Kansas
Braun is a nice project that will provide depth and hustle. Ties to Tucson as well.
He already played four seasons. He is not a project.
Either that tweet is bs or we want him as a walk on.
https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/36297682/toledo-rayj-dennis-enters-college-basketball-transfer-portal
RayJ Dennis would be a nice addition. He scored double-digits in every game this season...and showed an improvement from beyond the arc AND on the assist line throughout his 4 year career.
Quote from: KansasCityCats on April 27, 2023, 10:48:56 AM
https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/36297682/toledo-rayj-dennis-enters-college-basketball-transfer-portal
RayJ Dennis would be a nice addition. He scored double-digits in every game this season...and showed an improvement from beyond the arc AND on the assist line throughout his 4 year career.
Not against this. Shown good progression through the years. #1 thing that pops out is his steals per game with only averaging about 2 fouls per game. Also 1 O-Reb per game means he will fight for his bricks here and there.
Not sure how that would translate playing against better competition, I wouldn't be opposed to this addition. Not sure if someone like this would be willing to backup Boswell.
https://twitter.com/ThePortalReport/status/1653385911449817088?s=20
Jay Pal
Campbell
Senior
Forward
6'9 190lbs
Omaha, Nebraska
Quote from: mvpreed2 on May 02, 2023, 01:13:54 PM
Jay Pal
Campbell
Senior
Forward
6'9 190lbs
Omaha, Nebraska
Dude looks legit, we have room for another Fighting Camel!
Just give me jaden bradley.
He is not a star yet, but I think he will make that jump as a sophomore.
An will be a really good guard, I hope we land him.
https://twitter.com/247hshoops/status/1653753736907444227?s=46&t=msnp9qu2DOBrOp021rf4IQ
Grant Nelson
North Dakota State
Junior
Forward
6'11 235lbs
Devils Lake, North Dakota
Keshad Johnson
San Diego State
Senior
Forward
6'7 225lbs
Oakland, California
Tre White to Louisville
https://twitter.com/theportalreport/status/1655984100178526226
Jessen Zarzuela
Central Michigan
Junior
Guard
6'3 180lbs
https://twitter.com/JonRothstein/status/1657428762756038656
D'Marco Dunn
North Carolina
Sophomore
Guard
6'5 190lbs
Tuscon, Arizona
https://twitter.com/TiptonEdits/status/1658603278202961924
https://twitter.com/ThePortalReport/status/1658637055214092289
Quote from: WerderBremen on May 16, 2023, 11:18:24 PM[tweet]1658637055214092289[/tweet]
This was the top prospect on my list that I wanted Lloyd to bring to Arizona.
At this point, I do not have a specific name as to whom I would want to come.
Just go and get them!
#BearDown
https://twitter.com/jeffborzello/status/1661739946263347206
Also add Love please
List has been modified and updated with the commitment of transfer G Caleb Love from North Carolina.
Love should also be the 13th scholarship player on this roster, meaning Lloyd's roster is set for the 2023-24 season.
#BearDown
Quote from: mvpreed2 on May 30, 2023, 04:00:09 PMList has been modified and updated with the commitment of transfer G Caleb Love from North Carolina.
Love should also be the 13th scholarship player on this roster, meaning Lloyd's roster is set for the 2023-24 season.
#BearDown
Love is a big time get for Tommy. I'm wondering what the plan is for minutes.
Quote from: arxpert on May 30, 2023, 04:25:49 PMLove is a big time get for Tommy. I'm wondering what the plan is for minutes.
From what my eyes tell me, KB/JB/CL/OB are going to get all the minutes they can handle.
KJ/PL are going to be getting starter type of minutes.
Somehow, I believe DA/HV are going to be the two bigs off the bench with no idea how many minutes they get.
The entire 2023 class is a wildcard to me and I have
ZERO clue about
ANY of them!
Those listed above follow the trend of CTL going with a 7-8 man rotation with that 8th man getting limited quality reps.
#BearDown
Quote from: mvpreed2 on May 31, 2023, 09:07:29 PMQuote from: arxpert on May 30, 2023, 04:25:49 PMLove is a big time get for Tommy. I'm wondering what the plan is for minutes.
From what my eyes tell me, KB/JB/CL/OB are going to get all the minutes they can handle.
KJ/PL are going to be getting starter type of minutes.
Somehow, I believe DA/HV are going to be the two bigs off the bench with no idea how many minutes they get.
The entire 2023 class is a wildcard to me and I have ZERO clue about ANY of them!
Those listed above follow the trend of CTL going with a 7-8 man rotation with that 8th man getting limited quality reps.
#BearDown
Sounds like a recipe for some angry younglings that will declare their intentions to opt to transfer out before 2nd semester starts. I can't see a universe where Tommy has a happy team that is only 7 or 8 deep. It needs to be more throughout the season then end of March, tightening up is only natural, but that's why you play 9-10 players all year. So they are all ready to play big minutes in short rotations "as-needed" per matchup with elite chemistry.
This is what Tommy needs to learn.
Quote from: arxpert on June 01, 2023, 01:23:09 PMSounds like a recipe for some angry younglings that will declare their intentions to opt to transfer out before 2nd semester starts. I can't see a universe where Tommy has a happy team that is only 7 or 8 deep. It needs to be more throughout the season then end of March, tightening up is only natural, but that's why you play 9-10 players all year. So they are all ready to play big minutes in short rotations "as-needed" per matchup with elite chemistry.
This is what Tommy needs to learn.
I will go a step further and say that you are one injury away from giving someone 10-15mins more than what they are used to.
I have played on teams that went 6-7 deep, and others that went 8-9 deep.
I will say that 8-9 rotation made it easier to go harder because you had more bodies to throw out, and you got to rest a bit longer.
I still believe KB/JB/CL/OB are going to be the heavy minute leaders on this team next season.
#BearDown
List has been updated with the commitment of Kaluma to Kansas State.
#BearDown
Wow, that's a HUGE pickup for Tang and the Purple Cats! Can't wait to see if Kaluma can continue their momentum.