Did ACE/PGU start this whole mess with Book & the FBI??

[Little George]

Don't say that too load. FBI may be watching. 

I have had some connections in the past and Ace was one of them, but never close on a personal level or a money matter either.
My time in the know is slipping away. Lots of factors involved.

[Lutesguitar]

I was on at PGU and got reamed for suggesting that paying for the private forum was really just impatience since everything eventually gets revealed...Ace dumped my personal info online and mocked me...I tried to delete my account but was not given the option...

This is what I can surmise from that...whoever Ace was he was incredibly insecure and one of the greatest demonstrations of that was his twitter account with him showing all the cars and cash and boats and bling...

Now here's the deal, Vegas is a business world, it might come across as a playground but having done construction there I can assure you it is business to its core, people who go around flashing money and bling get marked right away...there was even evidence in one off his tweets that he had been banned form a casino...now you don't get banned from a casino without either running up huge debt or doing shady shit, hell they let Hells Angels have gunfights in the lobbies...

All that bling does not go unnoticed, no way in hell he made that money from Gophermedia or PGU...you seriously think you're buying high end cars running a veterinarians website???

There is very little doubt (but also very little evidence) that he was not doing some kind of illegal shit, either tax evasion, or money laundering or perhaps even getting into the recruitment game for Adidas...and Vegas is the absolute WORST town to try and pull that crap...the Feds keep a pretty tight surveliance on every casino, the kinds of legal clearances and documentation that those casinos must submit to stay in good graces is deeper than your average political campaign...there are laws about recording every transaction over certain dollar amounts, hell even your local bank must report cash deposits over 10k to the feds...

There's no way a guy like Ace does not attract the wrong kind of attention...the timelines line up pretty well and there were even some photos at one time of Book at one of the parties...we know that Book got reprimanded by Miller for leaking info, THIS might be the silver lining in the whole mess...let me explain:

Book is an employee of the State of Az, as such he cannot get a reprimand without heavy documentation, this goes in "his file"...Miller cannot be expected by the NCAA to have wire taps and set up stings on his assistant coaches, without hard core evidence Miller cannot simply fire Book on a hunch...so this personal record might be enough proof that Miller was in compliance with the NCAA rule of "creating an atmosphere of compliance"...he has a recent record of reprimanding Book and then no hard evidence of his wrong doing that got him nabbed...so Book leaking stuff to Ace created the situation where Miller has a record of correction in his favor...

Here's my last theory...I think Book exonerates Miller...media day is Oct. 11-12, Books hearing is Oct. 10...he will probably cop a plea deal, but in doing so he will admit guilt and in that moment I think Book steps up to the plate and lets everyone hear him say "I acted alone without anyone's knowledge this is all on me"...

I trust that is the character that both he and Miller expect from one another...I know we all want to see Book strung up for smearing the UA, but lets not forget he loves these guys and he probably loves the UA...I think he will try to clean up his own mess.

[Surgeon]

Don't say that too load. FBI may be watching. 

I have had some connections in the past and Ace was one of them, but never close on a personal level or a money matter either.
My time in the know is slipping away. Lots of factors involved.

Ummm......

Okay.

[Little George]

Don't say that too load. FBI may be watching. 

I have had some connections in the past and Ace was one of them, but never close on a personal level or a money matter either.
My time in the know is slipping away. Lots of factors involved.

Ummm......

Okay.

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it is ok cause I am clean. Lol

[Little George]

I was on at PGU and got reamed for suggesting that paying for the private forum was really just impatience since everything eventually gets revealed...Ace dumped my personal info online and mocked me...I tried to delete my account but was not given the option...

This is what I can surmise from that...whoever Ace was he was incredibly insecure and one of the greatest demonstrations of that was his twitter account with him showing all the cars and cash and boats and bling...

Now here's the deal, Vegas is a business world, it might come across as a playground but having done construction there I can assure you it is business to its core, people who go around flashing money and bling get marked right away...there was even evidence in one off his tweets that he had been banned form a casino...now you don't get banned from a casino without either running up huge debt or doing shady shit, hell they let Hells Angels have gunfights in the lobbies...

All that bling does not go unnoticed, no way in hell he made that money from Gophermedia or PGU...you seriously think you're buying high end cars running a veterinarians website???

There is very little doubt (but also very little evidence) that he was not doing some kind of illegal shit, either tax evasion, or money laundering or perhaps even getting into the recruitment game for Adidas...and Vegas is the absolute WORST town to try and pull that crap...the Feds keep a pretty tight surveliance on every casino, the kinds of legal clearances and documentation that those casinos must submit to stay in good graces is deeper than your average political campaign...there are laws about recording every transaction over certain dollar amounts, hell even your local bank must report cash deposits over 10k to the feds...

There's no way a guy like Ace does not attract the wrong kind of attention...the timelines line up pretty well and there were even some photos at one time of Book at one of the parties...we know that Book got reprimanded by Miller for leaking info, THIS might be the silver lining in the whole mess...let me explain:

Book is an employee of the State of Az, as such he cannot get a reprimand without heavy documentation, this goes in "his file"...Miller cannot be expected by the NCAA to have wire taps and set up stings on his assistant coaches, without hard core evidence Miller cannot simply fire Book on a hunch...so this personal record might be enough proof that Miller was in compliance with the NCAA rule of "creating an atmosphere of compliance"...he has a recent record of reprimanding Book and then no hard evidence of his wrong doing that got him nabbed...so Book leaking stuff to Ace created the situation where Miller has a record of correction in his favor...

Here's my last theory...I think Book exonerates Miller...media day is Oct. 11-12, Books hearing is Oct. 10...he will probably cop a plea deal, but in doing so he will admit guilt and in that moment I think Book steps up to the plate and lets everyone hear him say "I acted alone without anyone's knowledge this is all on me"...

I trust that is the character that both he and Miller expect from one another...I know we all want to see Book strung up for smearing the UA, but lets not forget he loves these guys and he probably loves the UA...I think he will try to clean up his own mess.

Nice and interesting first post. Ace was that way! Never thought we'd be talking about him now though that is for sure.

[CatinBama]

I was on at PGU and got reamed for suggesting that paying for the private forum was really just impatience since everything eventually gets revealed...Ace dumped my personal info online and mocked me...I tried to delete my account but was not given the option...

This is what I can surmise from that...whoever Ace was he was incredibly insecure and one of the greatest demonstrations of that was his twitter account with him showing all the cars and cash and boats and bling...

Now here's the deal, Vegas is a business world, it might come across as a playground but having done construction there I can assure you it is business to its core, people who go around flashing money and bling get marked right away...there was even evidence in one off his tweets that he had been banned form a casino...now you don't get banned from a casino without either running up huge debt or doing shady shit, hell they let Hells Angels have gunfights in the lobbies...

All that bling does not go unnoticed, no way in hell he made that money from Gophermedia or PGU...you seriously think you're buying high end cars running a veterinarians website???

There is very little doubt (but also very little evidence) that he was not doing some kind of illegal shit, either tax evasion, or money laundering or perhaps even getting into the recruitment game for Adidas...and Vegas is the absolute WORST town to try and pull that crap...the Feds keep a pretty tight surveliance on every casino, the kinds of legal clearances and documentation that those casinos must submit to stay in good graces is deeper than your average political campaign...there are laws about recording every transaction over certain dollar amounts, hell even your local bank must report cash deposits over 10k to the feds...

There's no way a guy like Ace does not attract the wrong kind of attention...the timelines line up pretty well and there were even some photos at one time of Book at one of the parties...we know that Book got reprimanded by Miller for leaking info, THIS might be the silver lining in the whole mess...let me explain:

Book is an employee of the State of Az, as such he cannot get a reprimand without heavy documentation, this goes in "his file"...Miller cannot be expected by the NCAA to have wire taps and set up stings on his assistant coaches, without hard core evidence Miller cannot simply fire Book on a hunch...so this personal record might be enough proof that Miller was in compliance with the NCAA rule of "creating an atmosphere of compliance"...he has a recent record of reprimanding Book and then no hard evidence of his wrong doing that got him nabbed...so Book leaking stuff to Ace created the situation where Miller has a record of correction in his favor...

Here's my last theory...I think Book exonerates Miller...media day is Oct. 11-12, Books hearing is Oct. 10...he will probably cop a plea deal, but in doing so he will admit guilt and in that moment I think Book steps up to the plate and lets everyone hear him say "I acted alone without anyone's knowledge this is all on me"...

I trust that is the character that both he and Miller expect from one another...I know we all want to see Book strung up for smearing the UA, but lets not forget he loves these guys and he probably loves the UA...I think he will try to clean up his own mess.

Obviously Ace is way before my time, no idea until this week- but from what Ive been reading from all of you guys is it seems like him and Dawkins have similar traits lol. Not like there's any connection or anything, just a simple observation. Flamboyance/bragging, getting caught with your pants down. Just think it's funny

[mvpreed2]

I wasn't close with ACE as some others were, but I was an ACE supporter in the beginning.
Then once the Private Forum REALLY took off, and ACE and his mods were adding/dropping people, members of the site began to beg to get in like it was cocaine or something.
That is when the site began to turn for the worse to me.

It was like two different sites going on at the same time.
It was ACE and his people that knew everything that was going on with the program, and then those that wanted to get in and (seemed) willing to do whatever it took to get in.
At that point, I didn't really like the site.
The people I was closer to were "in the know" and then they stopped coming to the public forums because the quality of the threads were trash.

Then ACE would pop in and start banning people and go on his rants and whatnot, people start ****-riding hoping to get a glimpse into the Private Forum (I was one at one point) and it made a lot of the good memories I had on PGU meaningless.
The Private Forum ruined PGU and it is not even close..

[ZonaBBB]

I can tell you first hand how many messages I would get from him literally trying to micro-manage what I posted. He knew how thorough of a fan I was of the team and anything I would say that would be objective to anything he said he would either tell me to stop in a rude manner or he would delete my posts. He probably deleted like 10 posts of mine.

I'm literally just stunned how weird this all is. PGU changed everything for us fans that were searching for a legit fan site for Zona. It was so superior of all the others. Saying that. I'm hoping that huge shift from mediocre to exactly what we were all looking for IS NOT correlated with when the scandal trickled into Arizona waters. You guys know what I'm saying? 

[WILD]

Here's video of Pras who I thought was ACE talking to Gordon & Ronde before they started playing for UofA. There's a lot of videos of him interviewing future CATS & AAU players players on YouTube.

[UAlum]

I could be wrong but I'm like 95% sure that is Pras, not ACE