If not Miller, then who?

[TennesseeCat36]

That's ok I get it and agree to a degree but I still wish I could attend every home game or at least more of them.  I still proudly wear U of A gear here in Tennessee and watch every game that isn't on Pac 12 network. Do you really think Miller be be fired and or leave Arizona before his contract is up in 2 years? I really believe he will work out his contract but won't be extended unless they win a National Title by then or possibly a final 4 berth. I agree that the style of play isn't very fun and wish Miller would let his guys play more like Altman seems to do and a lot more coaches but we don't have the same talent as the teams from 2013-2017 overall. Yeah the 3 freshman are good but Green isn't consistent, Mannion I wish was more aggressive and scored more and the upperclassmen aren't that talented in my opinion. There was way more talent and depth of those back to back elite 8 teams

[AzHoops24]

I don't get the complaining about ooc scheduling its done years in advance and every year different teams are legit. We played the two top ranked teams in the country this year so quit ur damn bitching

[ichi]

When they're clicking this team is incredibly fun to watch, that behind the back pass from Nico to Josh is a prime example, or that big Lee block, I find myself thinking how exciting this team is

all they need to do is play a full 40 of that brand

[Wildcat4life]

I'm not bitching, just expressing how I feel. Don't be a dick!

[TucsonTruckStop]

CSM has a nearly .750 w/l record, we will not be able to attract anyone with better

anyone we hire to replace Miller will face the same recruiting struggles, but he consistenly brought in talent despite the forces working against him

This does not make much sense to me. You act as though Miller is coaching at an extremely high level and we just want to dump a great coach. The whole reason for wanting a new coach is because the current coach is not performing. If he is not coaching well (his words, not mine), it means he falls low on the coaching talent list.  So, you can't say we can't do any better if 50% - 75% of the coached out there are better than him.
Regarding your second point about recruiting struggles; you have it backwards. (1) Miller does not struggle with recruiting; and (2) he recruits well when there are not 'forces' working against his recruiting efforts, but the time there actually were "forces" (ESPN, FBI trial) working against him, he lost 2 recruiting cycles.

[ichi]

Miller is a great coach, he'll be in the HoF, he'll go to the FF and win a national championship

his assistant at the time took money  under the table and that almost derailed the program, his leadership saw us through that rough patch so far but it took its toll, we lost some recruits and the whole affair put a lot of pressure of the program.  that has side effects on the team.

last year the team struggled, no doubt, and this year's team hasn't lived up to the massive hype, but we're competitive in the PAC, just because we lost by 1 in Corvallis does not mean that Miller is not performing

I think that the fans who want Miller replaced are panicking and want to abandon Miller for an unknown.  I think we will not be able to replace him with anyone who will do better - for a long time. 

I don't know where you get that 50-75% of the coaches out there are better than Miller, if you could explain how you came up with that please share, 'cause its nonsense. 

Everyone struggles to recruit, it is very difficult.  When I say recruiting struggles I mean that every quality prospect is recruited hard by a lot of schools, there's the shenanigans going on behind the scenes, kids do strange things, so everyone, including Miller, faces struggles, and who ever replaces Miller would not only have to recruit, he'd have to recruit to a school that is under a cloud still, we still may get penalized for Book or PHelps or something.  Anyone else would have lost more than the two recruiting cycles you mentioned.

One thing I learned during my career was to understand the difference between a truly weak employee and one who had potential but was struggling.  I learned that by having a little patience I could help my good ones who were having a rough time get through it, and afterward they were better for the experience.  Miller is not a loser, he's just having a little down patch, from which he'll recover (unless the overly-entitled fans drive him out)

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[Wildcat4life]

Overly-entitled,wow a little hypocritical of you, one moment you don't want us to judge Miller and two seconds later you judge a fan base that wants results. However you spin it the last five years has been way below Arizona standards. Miller is a highly compensated adult, with a support structure( fans, arena, facilities and a national brand) with that expectations are high. As a coach of and top 10 program expectation at what you agreed to steward of, in turn fans have expectation and that is not entitlement, that's life. If the program performs at the same level two, three, four more season is that enough or should we wait 10 years or more? I love that your so positive regarding Miller, but please don't quote his winning percentage, if Miller scheduled games like Olson or if the PAC was as tough during Olson's tenure as the coach I would be amazed if he was over 500.

[ichi]

I judge Miller every day, I never said that we shouldn't

I just think he is doing as well as can be expected and that any attempt to replace is misguided

and that 'Cats fan are spoiled, we lost by 1 in OT to a highly ranked Ducks team in Corvallis and so-called fans were screaming for his termination

when you say that we're down the last few seasons, and then ask if we should wait 10 years or more IF he doesn't produce, you're assuming he's going to fail

realize that there is another potential outcome, that we could replace him and he goes on to the HoF and a National elsewhere while we languish under someone else, that is just as plausible

As a manager I would evaluate each employee, if they had potential we supported them, if we determined they did not have much potential we replaced them.  In this case you and I simply disagree on whether he has potential or not.

[Wildcat4life]

What's your opinion of potential? Sure he has potential, but it's been five years sub stand performance based on talent alone. Many programs would be excited to just make the turny or get bounced in the first round, but that simply isn't Arizona good. In Miller's own words" I need to do a better job coaching" words are just words. What has he actually done to change his system? Almost nothing. Pack-line, hedging the screens way to far, poor utilization of time outs, poor utilization of talent, inability to coach against zone. Keeping up with the make-up of Basketball and on and on and on. I can give numerous examples of lack of growth. I supported Miller, but have a hard supporting a person unwilling to change.

[ichi]

What's your opinion of potential?

he's almost .750 at UofA above .700 in conference, in two seasons (13/14 14/15) he was 67-9 won the PAC title and made the elite 8 both years, in '11, 14, and 17 he was PAC COY, there are like 10 of his guys in the NBA

that's Arizona good, that's not his potential that is his accomplishments, and he can improve on that

I get it that you don't think he's adapted or improved or that he's even a decent coach, I simply disagree that replacing him (something that is not going to happen at least until his contract expires or more dirt is dug up) is the best path forward

I also get that some fans think that they are entitled to all kinds of stuff, and that anyone who 'settles' for anything less than a National is a wimp interested in participation trophies

I'm proud of the way that CSM leads my team, the way he represents my school, his intense passion, his deep experience, his ability to focus, and while I'd like to win every game and be 10 times returning world champions I know that the reality is that he's doing a very good job given the circumstances, with the potential to improve

time will tell, and I promise you that if Miller gets replaced I'll be rooting for the new guy, but until then I hope that he wins his Nattie here at Arizona