Kylan Boswell calls out Podcaster Mike Luke & it's all bad

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arxpert

Quote from: KansasCityCats on March 10, 2025, 04:36:35 PMI embraced the nickname "point guard u", primarily due to the contributors that won prior to my arrival to the U of A in 2000.

Unfortunately, I think Jason Gardner and TJ McConnell have been the only two true point guards that lived up to Arizona's standards since then.

Hopefully that changes in the near future.

We always had true PG's until this new era. Whether they were 4 year guys didn't matter. We almost always had someone that was the Floor General. Even if they weren't that good going back to Shakur. I don't care if it was Momo Jones or Justin Coleman for a year. It was always a priority to have someone who listened to our HC.

Tommy doesn't demand that sort of respect from his PG's. His International Bigs seem to live in slight fear of him. But he has driven away too many Forwards for me to say that position respects him.

I guess Tommy won't be happy until we have 5 Jokic's on the team.

KansasCityCats

I loved Mimi's energy but his stats were clearly worse than Boswell's during his time at Arizona, so calling out the Lloyd Era is obviously a bias, especially if you think that Justin Coleman is part of any relevant point guard conversation.

If Nico hung around long enough, he would have been elite but our old staff couldn't keep PG's over 6'0" on the court for more than a year, which is a bummer.

arxpert

Quote from: KansasCityCats on March 11, 2025, 04:21:46 AMI loved Mimi's energy but his stats were clearly worse than Boswell's during his time at Arizona, so calling out the Lloyd Era is obviously a bias, especially if you think that Justin Coleman is part of any relevant point guard conversation.

If Nico hung around long enough, he would have been elite but our old staff couldn't keep PG's over 6'0" on the court for more than a year, which is a bummer.

It is not about the stats. It is about the effectiveness and leadership. I don't care who it was, the PG position was treated with reverence until the Lloyd Era.

KansasCityCats

I know Momo said he wanted to be near family but leaving for Iona after two years doesn't say much about leadership or reverence.

Stays matter when you're an inefficient shooter. It also doesn't make you a quality "point guard" when your A:TO ratio is almost 1:1. At least Boswell maintained a 2:1 ratio at Arizona.

We had a former elite PG as our head coach and couldn't find anybody to dish out assists over a 10 year period (not named McConnell).

Maybe Gardner will groom somebody to be his replacement, 25 years later.

arxpert

Quote from: KansasCityCats on March 11, 2025, 04:22:47 PMI know Momo said he wanted to be near family but leaving for Iona after two years doesn't say much about leadership or reverence.

Stays matter when you're an inefficient shooter. It also doesn't make you a quality "point guard" when your A:TO ratio is almost 1:1. At least Boswell maintained a 2:1 ratio at Arizona.

We had a former elite PG as our head coach and couldn't find anybody to dish out assists over a 10 year period (not named McConnell).

Maybe Gardner will groom somebody to be his replacement, 25 years later.

Can't mix stats with systems.

If Boswell was playing with Miller he wouldn't have had 80 possessions a game to work with in order to score 80ppg.

If anything, Tommy's way is far more inefficient than his stat output suggests, but we get more attempts with the pace so the numbers are always juiced.

Miller may have had his systems and his ways of operating, but he was never afraid to throw it all out the door and play the game in front of him on any given night.

If you want to harp on Wichita and Buffalo go ahead. You want to ignore how he navigated to 3 Elite 8s playing many different elite teams and styles. You also want to ignore how he lost in the 2nd Weekend by a total of what? Less than 10 points total across 5 games or so? Something like that. A bucket here, a buzzer beater there.

All while Tommy gets blown out and his closest loss was to a 15 seeded Princeton. Stop it already.

You are not fit to discuss the reverence of the PG position at Arizona if you think that Miller didn't put a heavy emphasis on having a real PG on his rosters that we didn't need 20ppg out of in order to win games.

Tommy has yet to sign a true PG that is willing to operate as an extension of Tommy's mind on the court. He only has guys out there who are true SG's that are playing the "G" position, not PG, chucking up shots.

KansasCityCats

We're discussing point guards, not postseasons. Both coaches made it to the second weekend and won conference tournaments early in their careers. That's an accomplishment but it's not a Final Four or National Title.

I don't care about PPG. We need a PG that can create buckets, which is specifically defined by assists.

The only PG's recruited out of HS by miller with reasonable assist numbers were Coleman and B-Will, who led their team to a stellar 17-15 record. They still couldn't manage a 2:1 assist to turnover ratio but they ran an offense that could "almost" break a zone defense. It was embarrassing.

My argument is that Lloyd also hasn't recruited that true PG, although the offense is at least putting up points, which isn't painful to watch.

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Kerr, Boswell, and Conrad are all true PGs. Tom simply hasn't cracked the code on how to max out the impact from players like that (yet).

mvpreed2

I am not going to sit here and pick a side for several reasons.
I saw that photo of KB at the tables looking like he had a few too many.
I expected something to come out or happen as a result, and nothing did.

I am a listener of "Locked On Wildcats" with Mike Luke.
I will say I do not support the majority of his takes, because he tends to repeat them frequently.
He continued to mention KB's lack of production on the floor (and weight) to be a direct result of essentially living the college life at Arizona.
There is a fine line between reporting and going too far to me.
Sometimes, I am not sure which side of the fence Luke stands on.
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Paper_Bag

Quote from: mvpreed2 on March 12, 2025, 12:05:43 AMI am not going to sit here and pick a side for several reasons.
I saw that photo of KB at the tables looking like he had a few too many.
I expected something to come out or happen as a result, and nothing did.

I am a listener of "Locked On Wildcats" with Mike Luke.
I will say I do not support the majority of his takes, because he tends to repeat them frequently.
He continued to mention KB's lack of production on the floor (and weight) to be a direct result of essentially living the college life at Arizona.
There is a fine line between reporting and going too far to me.
Sometimes, I am not sure which side of the fence Luke stands on.
#BearDown

It was a terrible look on Luke's part especially when you consider that Kylan's tweet was pretty innocuous. I listen to Luke and Scheer but their whole schtick is obnoxious. I'm just starved for UA content at times.

arxpert

Quote from: |ᴘ|ʀ|ʏ|ᴍ|ᴇ| on March 11, 2025, 08:23:16 PMKerr, Boswell, and Conrad are all true PGs. Tom simply hasn't cracked the code on how to max out the impact from players like that (yet).

Miller found Kerr, for the record.

Miller would have coached Kerr far differently over time. He spent most of his time getting Kerr to America. It was just a shame that Miller's Mastery of NIL was ousted right when it is needed most while Bill Self was given what? a Lifetime Contract for being far worse?

Tom's system prevents a Floor General from even wanting to come here and also eliminates the possibility of one at the same time.


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