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Little George

So far there has been nothing solid on Arizona other than Book taking money. Only 5k of that was not accounted for. And Book is no longer with Arizona. I think the NCAA has bigger fish to fry right now. I really believe the NCAAs hands may be forced to actually enforce the rules with Kansas and some other schools. Unlike the UNC thing where they buried it.

MDcAtZ

Some observations...
1) Shoe companies don't act in a void. They don't decide which players are going to go to which schools. They MUST get some direction from the schools about who to pay... I mean recruit. So the argument that coaches didn't know what shoe companies were doing is disingenuous.
2) It would be naive to think this is limited to just Adidas. Zion demanding stuff from Kansas would have to mean Duke/Nike either met or raised the offer.
3) Unless something unforeseen in the Book trial, Arizona should be in a good position to avoid NCAA sanctions. There's just hearsay by a competing shoe company exec... not solid evidence.
4) The NCAA MUST change. The system is clearly broken and encourages cheating.

DefinitelyNotWiid

as the texts showed, the rest of the college landscape is just trying to catch up to duke and kentucky. Who knows how long duke has been moving families into homes they can't afford and giving jobs they are unqualified for.

Justyce1

Using this logic, would that mean AZ offered more to get Ayton away from KU? I mean he was a Kansas lean for quite some time.

I hate Kansas but I also hate when people were jumping to conclusions and making assumptions about AZ/Miller
Quote from: MDCatsFan on October 17, 2018, 07:54:27 AM
2) It would be naive to think this is limited to just Adidas. Zion demanding stuff from Kansas would have to mean Duke/Nike either met or raised the offer.

PBCatfan

Instead of just focussing on what may or may not have transpired ( I personally believe Zona is just as dirty as Kansas, UK, Duke, and Kansas but it definitely has NOT been proven), what does everyone think the NCAA SHOULD do? May be a topic for a separate thread but I am curious if anyone has any solid solutions to fix the problem?

I am all for the Olympic model.

DefinitelyNotWiid

Quote from: PBCatfan on October 17, 2018, 10:45:24 AM
Instead of just focussing on what may or may not have transpired ( I personally believe Zona is just as dirty as Kansas, UK, Duke, and Kansas but it definitely has NOT been proven), what does everyone think the NCAA SHOULD do? May be a topic for a separate thread but I am curious if anyone has any solid solutions to fix the problem?

I am all for the Olympic model.

what's the Olympic model? The IOC is the most corrupt entity on the planet.

Little George

NCAA might actually have to balance their enforcement of the rules they twist all the time for their chosen schools.NCAA has lost all identity with credability.

PBCatfan

Quote from: DefinitelyNotWiid on October 17, 2018, 11:22:06 AM
Quote from: PBCatfan on October 17, 2018, 10:45:24 AM
Instead of just focussing on what may or may not have transpired ( I personally believe Zona is just as dirty as Kansas, UK, Duke, and Kansas but it definitely has NOT been proven), what does everyone think the NCAA SHOULD do? May be a topic for a separate thread but I am curious if anyone has any solid solutions to fix the problem?

I am all for the Olympic model.

what's the Olympic model? The IOC is the most corrupt entity on the planet.

Trudat but the NCAA would still make all the decisions they woukd just adopt the Olympic model/definition of amateurism. Here is a quick explanation from an article and for what it's worth NCAA President Emmeert said he would be open to the idea:

"One proposed fix has been to emulate the Olympics, which allows players to sell their name, image, or likeness for profit while remaining eligible to compete.

U.S. swimming champion Michael Phelps, for instance, signed a deal with Under Armour, while gold medal gymnast Gabby Douglas became a brand ambassador for Gillette's Venus razors ahead of the 2016 Summer Games.

A proposed solution to the NCAA's current model would allow college players to profit in the same manner as their Olympic counterparts."

DefinitelyNotWiid

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Trudat but the NCAA would still make all the decisions they woukd just adopt the Olympic model/definition of amateurism. Here is a quick explanation from an article and for what it's worth NCAA President Emmeert said he would be open to the idea:

"One proposed fix has been to emulate the Olympics, which allows players to sell their name, image, or likeness for profit while remaining eligible to compete.

U.S. swimming champion Michael Phelps, for instance, signed a deal with Under Armour, while gold medal gymnast Gabby Douglas became a brand ambassador for Gillette's Venus razors ahead of the 2016 Summer Games.

A proposed solution to the NCAA's current model would allow college players to profit in the same manner as their Olympic counterparts."

ah i see now. Yeah, would be nice.

MDcAtZ

Quote from: DefinitelyNotWiid on October 17, 2018, 11:51:04 AM
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Trudat but the NCAA would still make all the decisions they woukd just adopt the Olympic model/definition of amateurism. Here is a quick explanation from an article and for what it's worth NCAA President Emmeert said he would be open to the idea:

"One proposed fix has been to emulate the Olympics, which allows players to sell their name, image, or likeness for profit while remaining eligible to compete.

U.S. swimming champion Michael Phelps, for instance, signed a deal with Under Armour, while gold medal gymnast Gabby Douglas became a brand ambassador for Gillette's Venus razors ahead of the 2016 Summer Games.

A proposed solution to the NCAA's current model would allow college players to profit in the same manner as their Olympic counterparts."

ah i see now. Yeah, would be nice.

The problem with the Olympic model is that it doesn't actually discourage schools from cheating. I don't think that recruits are the reason for schools trying to outbid each other. The competition to get the top recruits is so intense that schools are willing to cheat. That competition will still be there even if recruits can monetize their name and image. The only difference will be that agents will openly be directing recruits to the school whose shoe company offers the biggest contract.... Duke and Kansas will perpetually have the top recruits.


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