Is this Really Who we are?

Started by arxpert, January 07, 2025, 07:09:30 PM

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arxpert

Quote from: FOOS on January 18, 2025, 04:15:09 PMI would wager Carter transfers after this season

I still think he is going Pro. Dalen Terry couldn't shoot the ball. Still can't. He showed up to the combine, the pro's got out their measuring tape and he ended up like #16 overall?

Carter CAN shoot the ball and has the measurables. It is solely Tommy who refuses to let him play. There's just no excuse anymore.

There's no "earn" vs not "earn" for minutes.

Carter was 4-5 today and went 2-3 from 3 for a team that struggles hitting 3's. It is illogical what Lloyd is doing and not doing unless anyone wants to start a discussion about Tommy throwing games.

Arizona was the underdog (betting) going into this game and a significant one at that. It is almost as if Tommy puts the call in and his competitive edge is in getting the kids paid via Gambling.

The 2 or 3 runs we had where we got back to a tie game or within punching distance of running past Tech, Tommy took out the players from that formula.

Texas Tech gets credit for winning, but I am going to still say Tommy beat Arizona. There is no legitimate reason we couldn't win the game other than Tommy choosing to do everything he could within his power to lose the game.

If Carter starts a game 0-6 from the field then I am not sure if Tommy will command him to take 20 more shots and go 2-26 on the day or if Tommy will have someone go to his apartment and pack his bags to throw him out of town.

I think Tommy has an issue with Carter at this point.

KansasCityCats

I think he stays if KJ goes pro. Carter knows that he'll be the focal point of the offense next season.

If you watch his emotions from the bench, he always has a smile and encourages his teammates, regardless of playing time. I think he's enjoying the experience and would be a lottery pick after his sophomore year if he waits.

I guess it depends on next year's projected roster, which is currently fluid.

Naterade

There is zero evidence that Carter is frustrated or feeling under appreciated. In fact the opposite is true to anyone who watches the games. Carters problems are on the defensive side of the ball and that's why he's not getting more minutes. We can put all the emphasis on three point shooting but defense will always trump offense in organized basketball. ADO has actually improved significantly on the defensive side of the ball which is why he's playing more minutes. He's not a great defender but he rotates like he is suppossed to. Carter isn't there yet. Maybe he goes pro, but Daley Terry is a poor example of leaving early. He doesn't play any significant minutes for a bad team. Carter works his tail off and is a high character kid. My guess is he stays for his sophomore year and becomes a top ten pick. Another year of college will turn into a decade long NBA career and hundreds of millions of dollars. Dalen Terry is not getting hundreds of millions.

arxpert

Quote from: KansasCityCats on January 19, 2025, 10:09:31 AMI think he stays if KJ goes pro. Carter knows that he'll be the focal point of the offense next season.

If you watch his emotions from the bench, he always has a smile and encourages his teammates, regardless of playing time. I think he's enjoying the experience and would be a lottery pick after his sophomore year if he waits.

I guess it depends on next year's projected roster, which is currently fluid.

I think he is a Top 14 pick currently and could play up to Top 8 easily. Tommy just won't let him showcase his talent. So his Combine will do the talking. I would love to see Carter stay and compete alongside Bryce James on the court and in practice.

arxpert

Quote from: Naterade on January 19, 2025, 12:56:40 PMCarters problems are on the defensive side of the ball and that's why he's not getting more minutes.

I don't agree. When Carter came in with around 11min left in the Tech game the other day, we were playing great defense. No one in College is supposed to be judged by Man To Man defense. The level of play is so different that unless you are some sort of enigma or a gigantic Center, a player like Carter should be judged by his "help defense". You speak about rotating. Del Orso has more experience, but he isn't a better defender than Carter. The length Carter has alone is enough to disrupt basically any player who isn't 6'11" and athletic.He is underutilized, underappreciated, and is riding out his contract. Hopefully he hangs around, but the NBA knows he is better than this. It's not some secret.Most players who are younger won't vocalize their issues because they are about their money. But as we see with Love, he has no problem showing his displeasure. He got his payday and may not make as much ever again.

KansasCityCats

When Bryant entered 6 min into the game, he immediately lost his man and compensated by leaving his feet, resulting in a hard foul, just seconds into the shift.

Lloyd left him in and didn't pull him into he did it again almost exactly four minutes later.

Naterade

Quote from: KansasCityCats on January 20, 2025, 05:34:40 AMWhen Bryant entered 6 min into the game, he immediately lost his man and compensated by leaving his feet, resulting in a hard foul, just seconds into the shift.

Lloyd left him in and didn't pull him into he did it again almost exactly four minutes later.

This right here. It's so obvious that Carter struggles defensively. But he is capable of being a great defender once he gets used to the college level. I was way wrong about Del Orso early on. I hope Carter makes big progress this year because that's the only way we have a chance to make a run in the tourney.

arxpert

Quote from: KansasCityCats on January 20, 2025, 05:34:40 AMWhen Bryant entered 6 min into the game, he immediately lost his man and compensated by leaving his feet, resulting in a hard foul, just seconds into the shift.

Lloyd left him in and didn't pull him into he did it again almost exactly four minutes later.

You said something interesting...

4 minutes later.

So it took Bryant a whole 4 minutes to make a mistake like that again.

Last I checked, it is a 40 minute game. There is no one in Carter's role/archetype playing better than Carter Two-Way currently. Whether we look every 4 minutes or Per40.

KansasCityCats

I love seeing his improvement. Bryant is making strides but Saturday was an exception, in terms of discipline. If he played the entire first half, he'd foul out at that pace.

arxpert

Quote from: KansasCityCats on January 20, 2025, 05:50:32 PMI love seeing his improvement. Bryant is making strides but Saturday was an exception, in terms of discipline. If he played the entire first half, he'd foul out at that pace.

So let him foul out and learn his own lesson.

We were heavy underdogs in that game and he was the only one who patently showed up. So I would rather him go 8-10 from the field and foul out early in the 2nd half then be yanked out of the game and then not played-through when he gets back in.


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