Kylan Boswell - Real Talk

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arxpert

Quote from: KansasCityCats on January 05, 2024, 08:41:12 PMWeren't you just talking about how wonderful Adama Bal is and how he deserves playing time?  He isn't ranked as highly as Boswell in either statistic and the WCC is a drastic step below the PAC-12

I won't be shocked if the WCC gets more teams in on Selection Sunday than the Pac12. What makes you think the Pac will get more than 1 team in the Dance at the moment? And please don't give me the First Four excuse. We all know about 2018. We were the only team to get in with a 4 seed and those bogus 11 seed First Fours get slapped right out before making the Round of 64.

KansasCityCats

Both conferences are bad but there's a huge discrepancy between the top talent level. Boswell is competing with legit NBA prospects to be atop the statistics and the WCC has Gonzaga plus a couple outliers.

https://www.espn.com/nba/draft/bestavailable/_/position/ovr/page/3

The Pac-12 makes up approx 15% of the projected draft board. The WCC doesn't want to contribute to the talent pool. Not to forget the fact that Boswell's stats are up against a brutal OOC schedule

arxpert

Quote from: KansasCityCats on January 06, 2024, 06:25:05 AMBoth conferences are bad but there's a huge discrepancy between the top talent level. Boswell is competing with legit NBA prospects to be atop the statistics and the WCC has Gonzaga plus a couple outliers.

https://www.espn.com/nba/draft/bestavailable/_/position/ovr/page/3

The Pac-12 makes up approx 15% of the projected draft board. The WCC doesn't want to contribute to the talent pool. Not to forget the fact that Boswell's stats are up against a brutal OOC schedule

I think you are biting off more than you can chew.

Just thinking about the last 5 years casually, I would take the WCC Players in the NBA over any configuration of Pac12 drafted players from 2018-2023. It's not even close. The talent coming out of the WCC recently has been leaps and bounds more elite.

KansasCityCats

We're debating "current" player rankings within the two conferences. Not apples and oranges.

Boswell's stats are side by side with a dozen NBA prospects. Bal is up against Nembhard and some guys that were possibly recruited by Wazzu.

Boswell is playing against Dook, FAU, Sparty, Purdue, Wisconsin and Bama. Bal went up against Ohio St, four of the worst Pac-12 schools and a bunch of programs that squeaked into D-1.

It's not even a fair comparison because Boswell will be in the league next year. I don't know whether Bal will be at his third D-1 stop, the G-league or abroad...but I'm confident that he won't be on an NBA roster.

Hopefully in 2-3 years.

arxpert

Quote from: KansasCityCats on January 06, 2024, 03:16:52 PMWe're debating "current" player rankings within the two conferences. Not apples and oranges.

Boswell's stats are side by side with a dozen NBA prospects. Bal is up against Nembhard and some guys that were possibly recruited by Wazzu.

Boswell is playing against Dook, FAU, Sparty, Purdue, Wisconsin and Bama. Bal went up against Ohio St, four of the worst Pac-12 schools and a bunch of programs that squeaked into D-1.

It's not even a fair comparison because Boswell will be in the league next year. I don't know whether Bal will be at his third D-1 stop, the G-league or abroad...but I'm confident that he won't be on an NBA roster.

Hopefully in 2-3 years.

WCC has had the better prospects and competition over the past 5 seasons and currently have better talent. Playing 1 game OOC vs "other levels of talent" doesn't change that. Just because we had some teams on our schedule doesn't mean anyone on our roster played Man to Man for 40 minutes on anyone in particular. Currently Adama-Alpha is the better NBA prospect.

No idea why you want Boswell gone so badly. He isn't NBA ready.

Maybe you feel like he is going to bolt for Gonzaga or something to hide from Big12 competition next year where he could get even more exposed by bigger, stronger, tougher opponents.

arxpert

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Boswell has now confirmed that he should be playing on the 2nd Unit. He was a true mess playing inside the arc to the rim. He tried (effort noted) - but failed there. It's time to make the change to Bradley. Boswell is a spot shooter and a steady hand off the bench. He did his best work with the 2nd unit. Krivas needs to be playing with Love, Pelle, and Keshad. Players who would really flourish with his huge frame in the lane giving them space to operate, drive, dish in or shoot the ball with a higher % chance of rebounding.

It is time. The 2nd Unit needs someone who can play steadily.

The Optimal 2nd Unit means:

Bradley
Boswell
Pelle
KJ
Ballo

I no longer view Boswell nor Ballo as 1st Unit level players. At least if we want to make any sort of run when it matters. This is Love and Keshad's team. Bradley works best with Love and Krivas is much better with Love as well in tandem with Keshad. Anyone who can't see that doesn't really understand the word "Insurance", "Quality", nor "Depth".

arxpert

Quote from: KansasCityCats on January 06, 2024, 03:16:52 PMWe're debating "current" player rankings within the two conferences. Not apples and oranges.

Boswell's stats are side by side with a dozen NBA prospects. Bal is up against Nembhard and some guys that were possibly recruited by Wazzu.

Boswell is playing against Dook, FAU, Sparty, Purdue, Wisconsin and Bama. Bal went up against Ohio St, four of the worst Pac-12 schools and a bunch of programs that squeaked into D-1.

It's not even a fair comparison because Boswell will be in the league next year. I don't know whether Bal will be at his third D-1 stop, the G-league or abroad...but I'm confident that he won't be on an NBA roster.

Hopefully in 2-3 years.

For the record this is not an Adama-ALPHA Bal post, but he did put down 28pts on 12-12 from the charity stripe tonight. Just an Elite Talent overall. Tommy fumbled it. Simple. We can move on now.

arxpert

Arxpert was right.
Arxpert is right.

That's all you need to know.


Boswell needed to be benched all the way back when I called for it. Now we have a player who is detrimental to the team.

Bradley is able to play inside the arc and we went up down the stretch with Bradley out there putting Washington States zone into chaos. Then Tommy went back to the worst player in this game and what happens? Wash St takes the lead right back on a series of horrible miscues and poor offensive possessions as well as even worse defense... and we lose the game.

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It's kinda insane that Boswell had no stats at all other than a TO and 2 fouls.

arxpert

Quote from: |ᴘ|ʀ|ʏ|ᴍ|ᴇ| on January 13, 2024, 08:41:20 PMIt's kinda insane that Boswell had no stats at all other than a TO and 2 fouls.

I don't think it is insane. I think this is what Boswell is. He is a 3pt spot shooter. Gabe York, Kyle Fogg. He is playing way above what he is due to Tommy being a foolish head coach. If Tommy would just draw up plays for Bradley + Love as the Guard tandem and use Boswell as the 3rd Guard for 2 different reasons, I think we would see tons of Boswell open 3s.

Bradley, Love, Pelle works for Defense
Bradley, Love, Boswell works for Offense

Boswell, Pelle, KJ, Keshad, Ballo works for defense and when we want to lob the ball inside / play to the rim with some backdoor cut plays. Only time I am ok with Boswell as a primary ball handler. Keep it simple, Stupid Tommy.


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