Brother Jedd will never get us there

Started by arxpert, October 07, 2023, 11:30:34 PM

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arxpert

Title says it all and don't even try to blame the refs

Jedd Fisch is not a true Head Coach. He is at best someone that should stick to recruiting aka buying players on the open market. He isn't someone who understands the nuances of momentum and how to manage a game. One obvious example was burning a timeout on 4th down when he could have taken the measly 5 yard penalty and kicked it anyway. So many terrible play calls in terms of highly telegraphed calls including the very last play. As soon as the DL shifted, it was obviously over.

Fifita's 2nd game - Whatever, blah blah. He is being coached by a nerd who doesn't understand how to win.
 
Fisch should have went for 2 to win the game outright. He showed all his plays 5 times over. You need to just go for the win on the road. No one would blame you any worse than I am blaming Jedd right now for failing there. This team is supposed to fail, but it isn't supposed to beat itself like it did tonight.

Don't get it twisted, Mario Cristobal is the worst coach in history for what he did to his Miami Hurricanes tonight, but we are going to the Big 12 and there is no way we will be competitive to the level some of you think we will be without someone who understands how to coach in-game.


LeftCoastCats



Fisch has done one of the greatest coaching jobs by turning around this program I may have ever witnessed.

We just took a top 10 team to triple OT, a team that is lead by a generational talent. ON THE ROAD!

You're out of your mind, pal.



KansasCityCats

And if it weren't for a few BS calls (dropped pass in the end zone that "stood"), Arizona easily wins this game.

I didn't read the initial post but I don't know where Fisch won't take the Cats. We're clearly improving on an annual basis under this staff.

Huge props to Nansen for developing this defense too.


FOOS



lsg_da_apache

Don't waste your time with Pert's BS!


CactusCat

Obviously AZ needs to start winning some of these games but I'm happy to see the turnaround in talent and competitiveness. AZ is already a top half team in the PAC imo and trending the right direction.
As a fan, It's an absolute blast to watch how hard these guys compete. They obviously believe in the coaching staff and the program.
#BearDown
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Little George

Some will always argue the no matter.

The refs had a definite impact last night.
Two definite calls:
1. End of the half when the dropped ball was called a TD, it was challenged and not over turned, even with the video clearly showing the ball was never controlled and did definitely hit the ground. With only 2 seconds left would USC have scored a TD or gone for the FG?
2. Second half second scoring drive supported totally on penalties in the half. There was on third down a personal fouls face mask call on our DB that was NOT a face mask at all. Since when is it a penalty to put your hand on the helmet of a player you are tackling? That kept that drive alive and allowed SC to put up 6 points. Were they close enough for a FG? I don't know if they could have hit one from that range, but the whole game situation turned to USC's favor on those two calls alone. There were other calls of question as well as many no calls against USC for holding etc...

Now, you can call it what you want, but the calls went to USC more often then not last night. Do NOT say it had no effect on the outcome of the game.

Coaching calls? IDK how I would have called it, but the situation is typically one that OT favors the home team. Going for two may have been a better idea.

Team growth ?    YES! Lots of it! I still think we are going bowling this year. I think we will still hit 7 wins.


figgs

Quote from: LeftCoastCats on October 08, 2023, 12:49:47 AM

Fisch has done one of the greatest coaching jobs by turning around this program I may have ever witnessed.

We just took a top 10 team to triple OT, a team that is lead by a generational talent. ON THE ROAD!

You're out of your mind, pal.



A Heisman winning generational talent at that!


KansasCityCats

Caleb will likely be the second collegiate player to ever win two Heismans.

Against his other 5 opponents, he threw for a 74.4% completion percentage for 320 YPG, averaged 4.4 passing TD's and only turned the ball over ONCE.

Arizona kept him at 56% for 183 "regulation" passing yards, 1 passing TD and a fumble.


FCat

Arizona went from being 1-11 (should have gone 0-12) to being probably the best 3-3 team in the country right now. I am not big fan of moral victories, but I can't imaginge what this sqaud will be like when the remaining peaces are finally assembled into place. Think where UW is right now. That could easily be AZ football in 2 years.


arxpert

I take what I have said about Jedd in the past back.

Jedd is no Grifter. A Real Grifter would have made sure not to lose Elijah Rushing's commitment.

Jedd is just another guy who is passing through getting a paycheck. The Big12 is going to be horrid. I am not convinced Jedd will reach a bowl within his first half decade if he is even afforded 5 years at this point. It may literally be now or never for Jedd to save his job and make a bowl game with 3 miraculous wins.

Seriously ---> Take a real moment to reflect. Just because you haven't seen Arizona Football be worth watching since Rich Rod, doesn't mean Arizona Football is all the sudden a Must-See product. This is pure recency bias from people who have been beaten down and held hostage by prior regimes that destroyed any hope there may have been back then before RR was "cancelled".

Unless Jedd mysteriously adds fluff games going forward into the Big12, I see no way Arizona Football wins 6 games under his leadership any time soon. How many years does Jedd get before a change has to be made? Entering a new conference that has deeper pockets is not going to favor our chances.


Little George

Quote from: arxpert on October 09, 2023, 01:27:57 PMI take what I have said about Jedd in the past back.

Jedd is no Grifter. A Real Grifter would have made sure not to lose Elijah Rushing's commitment.

Jedd is just another guy who is passing through getting a paycheck. The Big12 is going to be horrid. I am not convinced Jedd will reach a bowl within his first half decade if he is even afforded 5 years at this point. It may literally be now or never for Jedd to save his job and make a bowl game with 3 miraculous wins.

Seriously ---> Take a real moment to reflect. Just because you haven't seen Arizona Football be worth watching since Rich Rod, doesn't mean Arizona Football is all the sudden a Must-See product. This is pure recency bias from people who have been beaten down and held hostage by prior regimes that destroyed any hope there may have been back then before RR was "cancelled".

Unless Jedd mysteriously adds fluff games going forward into the Big12, I see no way Arizona Football wins 6 games under his leadership any time soon. How many years does Jedd get before a change has to be made? Entering a new conference that has deeper pockets is not going to favor our chances.

 I see 6 plus this year! if Fifita plays.


KansasCityCats

Not only should the Cats win 6 this season, the staff is laying the foundation to win in the future. Not only is Fisch in the upper half of the Pac-12 recruiting on a regular basis...he's near the top in the Big-12.

Arizona won't consider a change in leadership until the staff has an opportunity to prove that they can win with their own players.


arxpert

Quote from: Little George on October 09, 2023, 01:55:08 PM
Quote from: arxpert on October 09, 2023, 01:27:57 PMI take what I have said about Jedd in the past back.

Jedd is no Grifter. A Real Grifter would have made sure not to lose Elijah Rushing's commitment.

Jedd is just another guy who is passing through getting a paycheck. The Big12 is going to be horrid. I am not convinced Jedd will reach a bowl within his first half decade if he is even afforded 5 years at this point. It may literally be now or never for Jedd to save his job and make a bowl game with 3 miraculous wins.

Seriously ---> Take a real moment to reflect. Just because you haven't seen Arizona Football be worth watching since Rich Rod, doesn't mean Arizona Football is all the sudden a Must-See product. This is pure recency bias from people who have been beaten down and held hostage by prior regimes that destroyed any hope there may have been back then before RR was "cancelled".

Unless Jedd mysteriously adds fluff games going forward into the Big12, I see no way Arizona Football wins 6 games under his leadership any time soon. How many years does Jedd get before a change has to be made? Entering a new conference that has deeper pockets is not going to favor our chances.

 I see 6 plus this year! if Fifita plays.


I am left perplexed by this comment. In what universe does Noah Fifita not play as QB1, the starter of Arizona Football?

Outside of him being significantly injured, there is no possible way Fisch can remain Head Coach if he puts Jayden De Loser back into the QB1 role. No way, no how. I reject that.

If that happens, Fisch would be worse than Sumlin. Yeah. I said that.


KansasCityCats

In terms of wins, recruiting and success to salary ratio...it would be impossible for Fisch to be considered inferior to Sumlin under any circumstances.

Despite Fifita being the clearly better QB, JDL put up nice numbers in his first two seasons and it's nice to know that we have two options under center for the first time since Matt Scott and Nick Foles were both in Tucson.


arxpert

Quote from: KansasCityCats on October 09, 2023, 06:57:46 PMIn terms of wins, recruiting and success to salary ratio...it would be impossible for Fisch to be considered inferior to Sumlin under any circumstances.

Despite Fifita being the clearly better QB, JDL put up nice numbers in his first two seasons and it's nice to know that we have two options under center for the first time since Matt Scott and Nick Foles were both in Tucson.

Matt Scott?

Who?

Exactly. There is "A Guy", then there is "The Guy".


KansasCityCats

Matt Scott was one of the VERY few Arizona QB's that made an NFL roster. He was a legit collegiate talent that could have started anywhere.

I'd give anything to see him puke on an Arizona sideline again. Haha.


FOOS

Quote from: arxpert on October 07, 2023, 11:30:34 PMTitle says it all and don't even try to blame the refs

Jedd Fisch is not a true Head Coach. He is at best someone that should stick to recruiting aka buying players on the open market. He isn't someone who understands the nuances of momentum and how to manage a game. One obvious example was burning a timeout on 4th down when he could have taken the measly 5 yard penalty and kicked it anyway. So many terrible play calls in terms of highly telegraphed calls including the very last play. As soon as the DL shifted, it was obviously over.

Fifita's 2nd game - Whatever, blah blah. He is being coached by a nerd who doesn't understand how to win.
 
Fisch should have went for 2 to win the game outright. He showed all his plays 5 times over. You need to just go for the win on the road. No one would blame you any worse than I am blaming Jedd right now for failing there. This team is supposed to fail, but it isn't supposed to beat itself like it did tonight.

Don't get it twisted, Mario Cristobal is the worst coach in history for what he did to his Miami Hurricanes tonight, but we are going to the Big 12 and there is no way we will be competitive to the level some of you think we will be without someone who understands how to coach in-game.

Quote from: arxpert on October 07, 2023, 11:30:34 PMTitle says it all and don't even try to blame the refs

Jedd Fisch is not a true Head Coach. He is at best someone that should stick to recruiting aka buying players on the open market. He isn't someone who understands the nuances of momentum and how to manage a game. One obvious example was burning a timeout on 4th down when he could have taken the measly 5 yard penalty and kicked it anyway. So many terrible play calls in terms of highly telegraphed calls including the very last play. As soon as the DL shifted, it was obviously over.

Fifita's 2nd game - Whatever, blah blah. He is being coached by a nerd who doesn't understand how to win.
 
Fisch should have went for 2 to win the game outright. He showed all his plays 5 times over. You need to just go for the win on the road. No one would blame you any worse than I am blaming Jedd right now for failing there. This team is supposed to fail, but it isn't supposed to beat itself like it did tonight.

Don't get it twisted, Mario Cristobal is the worst coach in history for what he did to his Miami Hurricanes tonight, but we are going to the Big 12 and there is no way we will be competitive to the level some of you think we will be without someone who understands how to coach in-game.

Wow - this didn't age well


FOOS

Quote from: arxpert on October 10, 2023, 01:43:27 PM
Quote from: KansasCityCats on October 09, 2023, 06:57:46 PMIn terms of wins, recruiting and success to salary ratio...it would be impossible for Fisch to be considered inferior to Sumlin under any circumstances.

Despite Fifita being the clearly better QB, JDL put up nice numbers in his first two seasons and it's nice to know that we have two options under center for the first time since Matt Scott and Nick Foles were both in Tucson.

Matt Scott?

Who?

Exactly. There is "A Guy", then there is "The Guy".

Really ??  You can't be serious