Arizona Vs Ut-Arlington 🏀 game discussion thread 11/19/23 at 4pm PAC12N

[Zona Nation]

Not impressed with Tommy's Army today. We were outplayed in the 1st half. Somehow UTA flatlined scoring only 2 points in the first 9 minutes or so of the 2nd half, but I have noticed we are struggling defensively VS Forwards that outsize Keshad and out-quick Ballo/Krivas. We don't have that true 6'8" or 6'9" Athletic Forward that can shut down the opponent's best player which is usually a Forward or oversized Guard. Very similar to how we got destroyed by the kid from Princeton last year. No answer for the "Tweener" SF/PF who can score in a multitude of ways.

Obviously we have a natural response to just outmatch opponents on offense, but this is a big observation that Tommy needs to figure out an answer to as we move toward opponents with high level athletes like Michigan St where we won't automatically overmatch anyone in that department.

Dude no matter how good the team is, no matter how much we stomp the other team, you're always going to find a negative with it. Shits Crazy AF..SMH

We're gonna win the Natty this year son, sit back and enjoy it WTH

I speak the truth and if you think this team has no room to grow then I would say I think you are incorrect and perhaps too cocky. If Princeton didn't humble you then I don't think anything will, but everyone should be willing to acknowledge that this year's team is a massive work in progress. It just looks great when we win while learning the lessons. Tommy still has a lot of figure out with how to manage this roster properly. I think he is doing a good job of playing a deep roster and not abandoning anyone at the moment. We will see what he does and how the team does from here. There are plenty of tough games coming up to see what this team is made of. Barely winning @DUKE is not the end all to the season.

why are you bringing up Princeton this is a completely different team and we whooped Duke in every facet of the game (on their home court ) barely won, maybe you need to rewatch that game

[KansasCityCats]

If we were outplayed in the first half but won essentially every facet of the game (including points), does the at mean we outplayed Princeton last season?

[arxpert]

Not impressed with Tommy's Army today. We were outplayed in the 1st half. Somehow UTA flatlined scoring only 2 points in the first 9 minutes or so of the 2nd half, but I have noticed we are struggling defensively VS Forwards that outsize Keshad and out-quick Ballo/Krivas. We don't have that true 6'8" or 6'9" Athletic Forward that can shut down the opponent's best player which is usually a Forward or oversized Guard. Very similar to how we got destroyed by the kid from Princeton last year. No answer for the "Tweener" SF/PF who can score in a multitude of ways.

Obviously we have a natural response to just outmatch opponents on offense, but this is a big observation that Tommy needs to figure out an answer to as we move toward opponents with high level athletes like Michigan St where we won't automatically overmatch anyone in that department.

Dude no matter how good the team is, no matter how much we stomp the other team, you're always going to find a negative with it. Shits Crazy AF..SMH

We're gonna win the Natty this year son, sit back and enjoy it WTH

I speak the truth and if you think this team has no room to grow then I would say I think you are incorrect and perhaps too cocky. If Princeton didn't humble you then I don't think anything will, but everyone should be willing to acknowledge that this year's team is a massive work in progress. It just looks great when we win while learning the lessons. Tommy still has a lot of figure out with how to manage this roster properly. I think he is doing a good job of playing a deep roster and not abandoning anyone at the moment. We will see what he does and how the team does from here. There are plenty of tough games coming up to see what this team is made of. Barely winning @DUKE is not the end all to the season.

why are you bringing up Princeton this is a completely different team and we whooped Duke in every facet of the game (on their home court ) barely won, maybe you need to rewatch that game

Why are you ignoring Princeton? Nothing they did stylistically was worthy of defeating us other than Tommy losing control of the locker room. It is well documented that the team lost interest and was not on the same page. Tommy has had this issue consistently down the stretch of the season since arriving as he coaches the team into the ground over the course of the season.

Yes, we barely beat Duke. We didn't dominate them in every facet of the game. We were dominated by a skilled Big and outplayed in the 2nd half all the way to the final seconds when we needed to be absolutely perfect from the FT line to win the game. We should have ran away with that game by 20+ at multiple junctions and we didn't. You only think we outplayed Duke because we won on the final score, but I am not here to expand your narrow mind. I am here to speak the truth. There is room for improvement. Filipowski dominated us thoroughly. They just didn't hit enough of their shots otherwise in the end. It was a good game, but Duke is overrated and looks like a strong 4 seed to me, maybe a weak 3 seed. We underperformed vs them. Again, you were too enamored by that fake #2 rank next to their name to see the truth.

[arxpert]

If we were outplayed in the first half but won essentially every facet of the game (including points), does the at mean we outplayed Princeton last season?

I don't know what you are asking here. We lost vs Princeton due to Tommy losing control of the locker room and the product on the court suffered as they refused to run his offense. It was 5 individual players out there vs Princeton that didn't do much against us. It was a game in the 50's if I recall. Tommy has a lot to make up for this season and winning @DUKE doesn't make up for that. I personally will not put up with him shortening the rotation and being stubborn when we have All the Tools to adapt to any situation.

Michigan State is up next. Some of you are extremely cocky right now and maybe this team needs a good humbling for you all to come down from your high horses. There is a lot of room for improvement. I just hope we can continue to win while working on what is to become the final form of this year's team.

[KansasCityCats]

I was asking how you considered Arizona to be "outplayed" against UTA in the first half, when we beat them in every statistical category, including points.

Our fanbase is aware that Arizona won't go undefeated. Lloyd scheduled the toughest OOC matchups so our young team can be humbled and experienced when the postseason rolls along.

Michigan state is a bad offensive team but they hustle on defense and are well coached. We'll see if we can make a statement on national television 

[Zona Nation]

Not impressed with Tommy's Army today. We were outplayed in the 1st half. Somehow UTA flatlined scoring only 2 points in the first 9 minutes or so of the 2nd half, but I have noticed we are struggling defensively VS Forwards that outsize Keshad and out-quick Ballo/Krivas. We don't have that true 6'8" or 6'9" Athletic Forward that can shut down the opponent's best player which is usually a Forward or oversized Guard. Very similar to how we got destroyed by the kid from Princeton last year. No answer for the "Tweener" SF/PF who can score in a multitude of ways.

Obviously we have a natural response to just outmatch opponents on offense, but this is a big observation that Tommy needs to figure out an answer to as we move toward opponents with high level athletes like Michigan St where we won't automatically overmatch anyone in that department.

Dude no matter how good the team is, no matter how much we stomp the other team, you're always going to find a negative with it. Shits Crazy AF..SMH

We're gonna win the Natty this year son, sit back and enjoy it WTH

I speak the truth and if you think this team has no room to grow then I would say I think you are incorrect and perhaps too cocky. If Princeton didn't humble you then I don't think anything will, but everyone should be willing to acknowledge that this year's team is a massive work in progress. It just looks great when we win while learning the lessons. Tommy still has a lot of figure out with how to manage this roster properly. I think he is doing a good job of playing a deep roster and not abandoning anyone at the moment. We will see what he does and how the team does from here. There are plenty of tough games coming up to see what this team is made of. Barely winning @DUKE is not the end all to the season.

why are you bringing up Princeton this is a completely different team and we whooped Duke in every facet of the game (on their home court ) barely won, maybe you need to rewatch that game

Why are you ignoring Princeton? Nothing they did stylistically was worthy of defeating us other than Tommy losing control of the locker room. It is well documented that the team lost interest and was not on the same page. Tommy has had this issue consistently down the stretch of the season since arriving as he coaches the team into the ground over the course of the season.

Yes, we barely beat Duke. We didn't dominate them in every facet of the game. We were dominated by a skilled Big and outplayed in the 2nd half all the way to the final seconds when we needed to be absolutely perfect from the FT line to win the game. We should have ran away with that game by 20+ at multiple junctions and we didn't. You only think we outplayed Duke because we won on the final score, but I am not here to expand your narrow mind. I am here to speak the truth. There is room for improvement. Filipowski dominated us thoroughly. They just didn't hit enough of their shots otherwise in the end. It was a good game, but Duke is overrated and looks like a strong 4 seed to me, maybe a weak 3 seed. We underperformed vs them. Again, you were too enamored by that fake #2 rank next to their name to see the truth.

Tommy didn't lose control of the locker room you absolutely made every single word of that up. Well documented that doesn't make any sense and it's completely untrue. The only thing narrow-minded about the Duke game is the way you perceive it go about your day and take care