Tommy is Scared

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Quote from: lynxaz on December 24, 2023, 12:51:15 PM
Quote from: arxpert on December 24, 2023, 11:47:38 AM
Quote from: lynxaz on December 23, 2023, 10:01:27 PMAsspert is no expert at all he just pretends he coaches div 1 basketball. When in reality he is giving his expertise from his keyboard in the janitor closet.

Truth be told Lloyd is not scared he is the one that scheduled these games.
Also the sky is not falling we have only lost 2 games in the entire OOC schedule.
That's pretty damn good so
Back the A

I will say it again so the slow ones can hear it.

This post has nothing to do with scheduling.

It has everything to do with Tommy getting punched in the mouth and not knowing how to respond.

"Everyone has a plan until they are punched in the mouth".

I guarantee all of you were like YEAAAHHH every time Love saved the day yesterday after multiple misses that could have sealed the game.

A lot of you forgot what got Arizona to #1.

So by your logic Tommy is scared of losing the lead and didn't know how to respond that makes no sense. If he was scared of losing he wouldn't have scheduled these teams in the first place. Your logic is nonsense. If you don't like Lloyd then easy fix go to another site and be a "fan"
He is the coach, not you. Yet you pretend like everything you say is the truth. You have no clue what is happening in the locker room but you make these assumptions  go figure

The burden of disproving me is on you. Until then, you are the one assuming. My comments are fact-based and that is due to observing the literal outcome.

You are still assuming I said Tommy is scared of losing games. I don't think Tommy cares at all about winning nor losing as long as his check clears.

All I actually said is Tommy is scared of his opponents once they hit the court. You can stay entertained by the scheduling all you want, but Tommy is in fact scared when he is coaching in-game when his stubborn, unadaptable, and cocky plan doesn't work. He talks far too much trash in between games to be getting a whooping 3 games in a row. Not all whoopings are losses. Bama whooped him good. Just because they chose to flame out chucking 3's when they could have shifted to a more methodical brand of basketball doesn't mean they didn't whoop Tommy.

Tommy is going to have a rude awakening in the Big12 unless he makes a concerted effort to learn how to handle in-game adversity and learn how to use the white board to draw up plays.

arxpert

Quote from: TooStonedCat on December 26, 2023, 01:01:56 PM
Quote from: arxpert on December 23, 2023, 05:15:25 PM
Quote from: FOOS on December 23, 2023, 04:39:21 PM
Quote from: arxpert on December 23, 2023, 04:35:13 PMTitle says it all. But I will say more. Tommy cannot beat quality opponents that are chemistry laden teams in any form. It's not in his DNA.

Everyone from the Coach to the Players knew that Tommy was scared as soon as that early 19-5 lead evaporated, Tommy was shaking in his boots and didn't know what to do so he just stood there with his arms folded and hoped that Love would chuck us out of it. All that did was give FAU more belief. We never really led the game in any way that mattered after that lead was gone.

We took 85 Shots and 26 FTs to FAU's 72 Shots and 20 FT attempts. FAU Made 8 3's, We made 7 3's.

When a Box Score is that lopsided in our favor and we lose by 1, there is only 1 reason and that is Tommy was horrible. So while I thought Houston, Princeton, and Purdue were his worst coaching jobs. I have now upgraded this game to his worst coaching job Ever. There is absolutely no excuse. None. No one can make a valid argument that can disprove that this was Tommy's worst performance as a Head Coach ever.

Tommy is habitually outcoached when the chips are down. I'm not here to listen to the sheep say "Tommy has an elite W/L record". It doesn't matter. He is not HIM when the chips are down unfortunately. This loss may end up looking better than it is analytically when it's all said and done, but I believe this knocks us off the 1 Line for good when the time comes. Unless we run the table in Conference play or maybe lose 1 game on the road. I can't see it. The Pac12 is horrible and we just got slapped 3 games in a row. 2 Losses and 1 win only by virtue of Alabama choosing to lose the game throwing up 3 after 3 --- They could have grinded and beat us. National Eyes see that. Don't think they are blind.

Tommy is still wildly inexperienced and he is incapable of coaching when his first plan goes out the window. The effort of the players was non-existent today. Don't let Double OT fool you. I think Tommy lost this game early on, but ultimately sealed our fate by not calling a Timeout at the end of Regulation to step up a Game Winning play.

The more this team stands around hoping Caleb Love can chuck his way to winning games for us, the more games we are going to lose.

At the moment, Tommy has lost the locker room from my POV. He will not win the Pac12 the way he has been coaching. We have been bullied, battered, and outplayed the last 3 games. The team identity is shattered at the moment. Too many eyes are focused on getting this season over with and not actually playing to Win it all.

You left out one little detail on the 'lopsided boxscore'  Arizona shot only 28% - worst of the year - and that obviously attributes to the loss.  I agree CTL should have had better plays at the end of reg and OT, but he wasn't the one tossing bricks

For the record FOOS (and to all) ---> This was the Short Version of my write up. I'm too crestfallen by Tommy to even dignify him with a write up on everything that happened. There are a lot of obvious things that transpired on the court that Tommy refused to even try to correct to take control of the game and play it on our terms instead of chasing FAU around letting them dictate everything.

PS - Some people let Tommy off the hook for the exact comment you just wrote FOOS --- while they buried Sean Miller for his failures in big games. How many times over the years have I posted in the cBox or Forum that "Players are on the court" in defense of Miller? Make or Miss, but Miller had his team's in positions to Win or Lose at the end of games.

Today, Tommy had us in multiple positions to Win the game and the players didn't pull through.

That's not the essence of my post, but it is a fact of the matter.

The essence of my post is that Tommy is cocky for absolutely no reason at all. He is being taken to school by opponents and he seems to not realize it.

How is Tommy Cocky?


Hmm let's just give 1 example and move on -

PuRdUe HaSn'T SeEn ArIzOnAaAaAaAaA

Famous last words from a cocky coach who got his ass kicked.

arxpert

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Quote from: FOOS on December 23, 2023, 04:39:21 PM
Quote from: arxpert on December 23, 2023, 04:35:13 PMTitle says it all. But I will say more. Tommy cannot beat quality opponents that are chemistry laden teams in any form. It's not in his DNA.

Everyone from the Coach to the Players knew that Tommy was scared as soon as that early 19-5 lead evaporated, Tommy was shaking in his boots and didn't know what to do so he just stood there with his arms folded and hoped that Love would chuck us out of it. All that did was give FAU more belief. We never really led the game in any way that mattered after that lead was gone.

We took 85 Shots and 26 FTs to FAU's 72 Shots and 20 FT attempts. FAU Made 8 3's, We made 7 3's.

When a Box Score is that lopsided in our favor and we lose by 1, there is only 1 reason and that is Tommy was horrible. So while I thought Houston, Princeton, and Purdue were his worst coaching jobs. I have now upgraded this game to his worst coaching job Ever. There is absolutely no excuse. None. No one can make a valid argument that can disprove that this was Tommy's worst performance as a Head Coach ever.

Tommy is habitually outcoached when the chips are down. I'm not here to listen to the sheep say "Tommy has an elite W/L record". It doesn't matter. He is not HIM when the chips are down unfortunately. This loss may end up looking better than it is analytically when it's all said and done, but I believe this knocks us off the 1 Line for good when the time comes. Unless we run the table in Conference play or maybe lose 1 game on the road. I can't see it. The Pac12 is horrible and we just got slapped 3 games in a row. 2 Losses and 1 win only by virtue of Alabama choosing to lose the game throwing up 3 after 3 --- They could have grinded and beat us. National Eyes see that. Don't think they are blind.

Tommy is still wildly inexperienced and he is incapable of coaching when his first plan goes out the window. The effort of the players was non-existent today. Don't let Double OT fool you. I think Tommy lost this game early on, but ultimately sealed our fate by not calling a Timeout at the end of Regulation to step up a Game Winning play.

The more this team stands around hoping Caleb Love can chuck his way to winning games for us, the more games we are going to lose.

At the moment, Tommy has lost the locker room from my POV. He will not win the Pac12 the way he has been coaching. We have been bullied, battered, and outplayed the last 3 games. The team identity is shattered at the moment. Too many eyes are focused on getting this season over with and not actually playing to Win it all.

You left out one little detail on the 'lopsided boxscore'  Arizona shot only 28% - worst of the year - and that obviously attributes to the loss.  I agree CTL should have had better plays at the end of reg and OT, but he wasn't the one tossing bricks

28% in what? 3's? We made 7 3s. 7-25. FAU made a whopping 8 3's. 8-24 or 33%

We made 33 shots, 33-85 FG
they made 36 shots, 36-72 FG
We made 22-26 FTs
They made 16-20 FTs

This was the worst loss Tommy has ever suffered from a box score standpoint. This is a 20pt win for a coach who isn't afraid of his opponent during the game to the point of complete and utter play calling paralysis.

The players did what they did without a plan, without a coach. They were better players than FAU, but they were not coached to be a better team. One would think after Tommy called the prior worst game of his career against Purdue to feature 30 Alley Oop's to Ballo that he would at least have called to attempt 1 vs FAU. Especially with Goldin off the floor. You're telling me the kid who won the game for FAU on the Free Throw, the 55% FT Shooter couldn't have been tested more throughout the game at the Line the way every team Hack-A-Ballo's? Tommy is that paralyzed that he couldn't draw up enough double teams on Johnell to force the ball to that kid instead then hack him? That is called Coaching. Tommy doesn't do it. He is too cocky and gets served.

Too bad Ballo is the most Regressed player since last year's Maui Jim in the entire Nation.

It would make a lot of sense if this team all had the Flu because everyone looked gassed out after 10 minutes and physically unable to compete.

KansasCityCats

So saying that "Tommy doesn't care if he wins, as long as his check clears" is "fact-based"?  Can you reference your sources?  That doesn't sound like Lloyd...

arxpert

Quote from: KansasCityCats on December 26, 2023, 07:17:26 PMSo saying that "Tommy doesn't care if he wins, as long as his check clears" is "fact-based"?  Can you reference your sources?  That doesn't sound like Lloyd...

What is more fact based - you saying that doesn't sound like Tommy or me saying that the man is going to do his job win or lose as long as that check clears.

It doesn't take a college degree to know the answer.

KansasCityCats

The answer is that neither of us spend time in the locker room so neither opinion deserves credibility as a "fact".

If you followed a significant amount of his press conferences, you'd never call Lloyd cocky. He treats the media, alumni and players with respect, while still maintaining an aggressive mindset to win.

FCat


arxpert

Quote from: KansasCityCats on December 27, 2023, 05:59:56 AMThe answer is that neither of us spend time in the locker room so neither opinion deserves credibility as a "fact".

If you followed a significant amount of his press conferences, you'd never call Lloyd cocky. He treats the media, alumni and players with respect, while still maintaining an aggressive mindset to win.

He is cocky and he has had his teeth stomped in 3 games in a row. Just because we won one of the games due to Bama choosing to lose doesn't mean Tommy didn't get stuffed in a locker.

KansasCityCats

Trying to justify a 13 point win as "getting stomped" still doesn't explain how a coach is cocky.

TooStonedCat

Quote from: arxpert on December 26, 2023, 01:49:00 PM
Quote from: TooStonedCat on December 26, 2023, 01:01:56 PM
Quote from: arxpert on December 23, 2023, 05:15:25 PM
Quote from: FOOS on December 23, 2023, 04:39:21 PM
Quote from: arxpert on December 23, 2023, 04:35:13 PMTitle says it all. But I will say more. Tommy cannot beat quality opponents that are chemistry laden teams in any form. It's not in his DNA.

Everyone from the Coach to the Players knew that Tommy was scared as soon as that early 19-5 lead evaporated, Tommy was shaking in his boots and didn't know what to do so he just stood there with his arms folded and hoped that Love would chuck us out of it. All that did was give FAU more belief. We never really led the game in any way that mattered after that lead was gone.

We took 85 Shots and 26 FTs to FAU's 72 Shots and 20 FT attempts. FAU Made 8 3's, We made 7 3's.

When a Box Score is that lopsided in our favor and we lose by 1, there is only 1 reason and that is Tommy was horrible. So while I thought Houston, Princeton, and Purdue were his worst coaching jobs. I have now upgraded this game to his worst coaching job Ever. There is absolutely no excuse. None. No one can make a valid argument that can disprove that this was Tommy's worst performance as a Head Coach ever.

Tommy is habitually outcoached when the chips are down. I'm not here to listen to the sheep say "Tommy has an elite W/L record". It doesn't matter. He is not HIM when the chips are down unfortunately. This loss may end up looking better than it is analytically when it's all said and done, but I believe this knocks us off the 1 Line for good when the time comes. Unless we run the table in Conference play or maybe lose 1 game on the road. I can't see it. The Pac12 is horrible and we just got slapped 3 games in a row. 2 Losses and 1 win only by virtue of Alabama choosing to lose the game throwing up 3 after 3 --- They could have grinded and beat us. National Eyes see that. Don't think they are blind.

Tommy is still wildly inexperienced and he is incapable of coaching when his first plan goes out the window. The effort of the players was non-existent today. Don't let Double OT fool you. I think Tommy lost this game early on, but ultimately sealed our fate by not calling a Timeout at the end of Regulation to step up a Game Winning play.

The more this team stands around hoping Caleb Love can chuck his way to winning games for us, the more games we are going to lose.

At the moment, Tommy has lost the locker room from my POV. He will not win the Pac12 the way he has been coaching. We have been bullied, battered, and outplayed the last 3 games. The team identity is shattered at the moment. Too many eyes are focused on getting this season over with and not actually playing to Win it all.

You left out one little detail on the 'lopsided boxscore'  Arizona shot only 28% - worst of the year - and that obviously attributes to the loss.  I agree CTL should have had better plays at the end of reg and OT, but he wasn't the one tossing bricks

For the record FOOS (and to all) ---> This was the Short Version of my write up. I'm too crestfallen by Tommy to even dignify him with a write up on everything that happened. There are a lot of obvious things that transpired on the court that Tommy refused to even try to correct to take control of the game and play it on our terms instead of chasing FAU around letting them dictate everything.

PS - Some people let Tommy off the hook for the exact comment you just wrote FOOS --- while they buried Sean Miller for his failures in big games. How many times over the years have I posted in the cBox or Forum that "Players are on the court" in defense of Miller? Make or Miss, but Miller had his team's in positions to Win or Lose at the end of games.

Today, Tommy had us in multiple positions to Win the game and the players didn't pull through.

That's not the essence of my post, but it is a fact of the matter.

The essence of my post is that Tommy is cocky for absolutely no reason at all. He is being taken to school by opponents and he seems to not realize it.

How is Tommy Cocky?


Hmm let's just give 1 example and move on -

PuRdUe HaSn'T SeEn ArIzOnAaAaAaAaA

Famous last words from a cocky coach who got his ass kicked.

Ass kicked by 1 point in double OT..lol..Okay Expert


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