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Title: Purdue transfer 7'3 Haarms has Arizona on his final 10 list
Post by: WILD on April 11, 2020, 11:56:17 AM
https://twitter.com/jeffborzello/status/1248948643304017925
Title: Re: Purdue transfer 7'3 Haarms has Arizona on his final 10 list
Post by: KansasCityCats on April 11, 2020, 12:37:50 PM
Dude would make an immediate impact. With him and Walton, we'd actually have a pretty deep team that would have some eligibility left in the future!
Title: Re: Purdue transfer 7'3 Haarms has Arizona on his final 10 list
Post by: Jdmarti on April 11, 2020, 01:51:06 PM
Haarms would be huge I think he would start at center  I fear Kentucky though they need a center.
Title: Re: Purdue transfer 7'3 Haarms has Arizona on his final 10 list
Post by: Jdmarti on April 11, 2020, 01:51:59 PM
Sounds like walton will go to unc now that they have a scholarship.
Title: Re: Purdue transfer 7'3 Haarms has Arizona on his final 10 list
Post by: Little George on April 11, 2020, 04:11:29 PM
Welcome any solid player right now, but I am not high on him.
Title: Re: Purdue transfer 7'3 Haarms has Arizona on his final 10 list
Post by: KansasCityCats on April 11, 2020, 06:06:27 PM
He's a high intensity player that blocks a lot of shots and worked hard on his short range shots while at Purdue.

Minnesota is likely out because he's too loyal to stay within the B1G. I assume BYU, Kentucky and Gonzaga will be the top 3. Seriously hoping Miller lands him because he's a difference-maker.
Title: Re: Purdue transfer 7'3 Haarms has Arizona on his final 10 list
Post by: mvpreed2 on April 11, 2020, 07:08:49 PM
A skinny 7'3 C?
This kid has Gonzaga written all over him.
Title: Re: Purdue transfer 7'3 Haarms has Arizona on his final 10 list
Post by: Jdmarti on April 12, 2020, 01:37:15 AM
Gonzaga has alot of bigs though  an he is a grad transfer  I bet he goes somewhere he can start.
Title: Re: Purdue transfer 7'3 Haarms has Arizona on his final 10 list
Post by: mvpreed2 on April 12, 2020, 10:05:09 AM
Quote from: Jdmarti on April 12, 2020, 01:37:15 AM
Gonzaga has alot of bigs though  an he is a grad transfer  I bet he goes somewhere he can start.
True, they had five bigs last season over 6'10.

- Their best one (Tillie) was a senior last season.
- Their 2nd best (Petrusev) is coming back as a junior.
- One (Zakharov) played less than 5mins/gm
- One (Ballo) did not play at all in 2019-20.
- Then there was Drew Timme who was a role player.

That leads me to believe that other spot opposite Petrusev is going to be up for grabs, and if Haarms believes he is good enough, he might be willing to step in and fight for it.
I do not believe depth charts matters to all transfer prospects.
Title: Re: Purdue transfer 7'3 Haarms has Arizona on his final 10 list
Post by: ChrisZona on April 12, 2020, 10:22:17 AM
Quote from: mvpreed2 on April 12, 2020, 10:05:09 AM
Quote from: Jdmarti on April 12, 2020, 01:37:15 AM
Gonzaga has alot of bigs though  an he is a grad transfer  I bet he goes somewhere he can start.
True, they had five bigs last season over 6'10.

- Their best one (Tillie) was a senior last season.
- Their 2nd best (Petrusev) is coming back as a junior.
- One (Zakharov) played less than 5mins/gm
- One (Ballo) did not play at all in 2019-20.
- Then there was Drew Timme who was a role player.

That leads me to believe that other spot opposite Petrusev is going to be up for grabs, and if Haarms believes he is good enough, he might be willing to step in and fight for it.
I do not believe depth charts matters to all transfer prospects.

Drew Timme had a better season than Haarms 10pts/5rebs/62% from the field and with the way Gonzaga develops players he might be their next elite big. But who knows what this kid wants if he wants to win a title then yeah Gonzaga and UK makes the most sense . Just from this list Tech and Arkansas make the most sense both have tournament bound teams and holes in the frontcourt.
Title: Re: Purdue transfer 7'3 Haarms has Arizona on his final 10 list
Post by: Jdmarti on April 12, 2020, 11:27:18 AM
Miller needs to sell  haarms on starting role.
Title: Re: Purdue transfer 7'3 Haarms has Arizona on his final 10 list
Post by: KansasCityCats on April 12, 2020, 11:37:35 AM
Agreed with Chris that Tech makes the most sense. Not sure if Beard can pull off the sales job though.
Title: Re: Purdue transfer 7'3 Haarms has Arizona on his final 10 list
Post by: mvpreed2 on April 12, 2020, 04:29:34 PM
Quote from: Jdmarti on April 12, 2020, 11:27:18 AM
Miller needs to sell  haarms on starting role.
That could backfire on you, especially if Miller may have promised that role to one/both or Brown/Koloko.
You bring in Haarms AND start him, you run the risk of losing one of them to transfer
Title: Re: Purdue transfer 7'3 Haarms has Arizona on his final 10 list
Post by: KansasCityCats on April 12, 2020, 06:09:09 PM
I think Koloko knows that he has another year or so before he's ready for significant minutes. Lee and Brown can play alongside each other, but adding a guy like Haarms would make everybody better via practice and with an increase in wins.

One more big man and one more wing would be huge for this team.
Title: Re: Purdue transfer 7'3 Haarms has Arizona on his final 10 list
Post by: mvpreed2 on April 12, 2020, 08:36:10 PM
Quote from: KansasCityCats on April 12, 2020, 06:09:09 PM
I think Koloko knows that he has another year or so before he's ready for significant minutes. Lee and Brown can play alongside each other, but adding a guy like Haarms would make everybody better via practice and with an increase in wins.

One more big man and one more wing would be huge for this team.
I won't speak on what a prospect thinks after I watched both Jerrett and Comanche leave Arizona and declare for the NBA.

We definitely need someone like Haarms, or even a true rim-protecting C that would allow Lee/Koloko to stay in their current roles they thrived in last season.
If I am Miller, I am going after two big wings, one true big, and sitting on that other scholarship for 2021 which appears to a better class for us on the surface.
Title: Re: Purdue transfer 7'3 Haarms has Arizona on his final 10 list
Post by: WILD on April 12, 2020, 11:24:18 PM
I'm hearing one of the main reasons Haarms is leaving Purdue is because he wants to get the green light to shoot 3's. We have seen Miller allowed Ayton to shoot 3's, but he did not allow Nnaji to do so. This could make things interesting.
Title: Re: Purdue transfer 7'3 Haarms has Arizona on his final 10 list
Post by: aros95 on April 12, 2020, 11:54:29 PM
He let Dusan shoot them as well. He should pitch him by showing him how he used Lauri.
Title: Re: Purdue transfer 7'3 Haarms has Arizona on his final 10 list
Post by: Jdmarti on April 13, 2020, 12:01:09 AM
I read that ye made 3s so Miller should allow him to take them if he comes here.
Title: Re: Purdue transfer 7'3 Haarms has Arizona on his final 10 list
Post by: WerderBremen on April 13, 2020, 12:22:24 AM
Well since the other guys can't shot it either just go ahead and take your shots...

;-)
Title: Re: Purdue transfer 7'3 Haarms has Arizona on his final 10 list
Post by: WerderBremen on April 13, 2020, 12:32:20 AM
....shoot..

\>:(
Title: Re: Purdue transfer 7'3 Haarms has Arizona on his final 10 list
Post by: mvpreed2 on April 13, 2020, 06:05:23 AM
Quote from: WILDSIZZLE on April 12, 2020, 11:24:18 PM
I'm hearing one of the main reasons Haarms is leaving Purdue is because he wants to get the green light to shoot 3's. We have seen Miller allowed Ayton to shoot 3's, but he did not allow Nnaji to do so. This could make things interesting.
These are going to be some bigs IFs here but...

IF Haarms wants to shoot it from deep, that needs to be Miller's primary pitch.
IF you show you can shoot it in practice, then you will have to green light to let it fly in game.
Forget trying to sell him on starting, this seems to be the key right here.
What IF he shows up here and cannot shoot from deep at all, then what, do you let him shoot anyway because that is how you sold him, or do you tell him no and run the risk of him negatively recruiting against you and the program because you "promised" him something that you never allowed him to do?

Again, very big IFs in this scenario...
Title: Re: Purdue transfer 7'3 Haarms has Arizona on his final 10 list
Post by: 2012Cat on April 13, 2020, 09:52:17 PM
Quote from: mvpreed2 on April 13, 2020, 06:05:23 AM
Quote from: WILDSIZZLE on April 12, 2020, 11:24:18 PM
I'm hearing one of the main reasons Haarms is leaving Purdue is because he wants to get the green light to shoot 3's. We have seen Miller allowed Ayton to shoot 3's, but he did not allow Nnaji to do so. This could make things interesting.
These are going to be some bigs IFs here but...

IF Haarms wants to shoot it from deep, that needs to be Miller's primary pitch.
IF you show you can shoot it in practice, then you will have to green light to let it fly in game.
Forget trying to sell him on starting, this seems to be the key right here.
What IF he shows up here and cannot shoot from deep at all, then what, do you let him shoot anyway because that is how you sold him, or do you tell him no and run the risk of him negatively recruiting against you and the program because you "promised" him something that you never allowed him to do?

Again, very big IFs in this scenario...

Then you sit his ass. Is that really a question? Look at hazzard this year. He couldn't defend so he got no minutes. 5th year senior or not, if you can't do your job then it doesn't really matter what you got "sold" on.

Also a transfer senior that's trying to make a case for a draft pick (which is why he wants the green light to shoot) that has 30 top schools contact him isn't going somewhere that he isn't going to start. Koloko is a 4 year player don't let anyone tell you different
Title: Re: Purdue transfer 7'3 Haarms has Arizona on his final 10 list
Post by: Jdmarti on April 14, 2020, 06:42:09 AM
Haarms made a fair amount of 3s at Purdue I cant remember how many but I read it.
Title: Re: Purdue transfer 7'3 Haarms has Arizona on his final 10 list
Post by: Jdmarti on April 14, 2020, 06:42:44 AM
Bring him on we need a big.
Title: Re: Purdue transfer 7'3 Haarms has Arizona on his final 10 list
Post by: UAlum on April 14, 2020, 07:22:26 AM
Quote from: Jdmarti on April 14, 2020, 06:42:09 AM
Haarms made a fair amount of 3s at Purdue I cant remember how many but I read it.
He was 18-64 from 3 over his three years at Purdue
Title: Re: Purdue transfer 7'3 Haarms has Arizona on his final 10 list
Post by: Deb on April 14, 2020, 09:51:45 AM
I watched Haarms a few times last year - and all I thought was 'he has nice hair.'

No matter how he played, every hair stayed in place. Ha.
Title: Re: Purdue transfer 7'3 Haarms has Arizona on his final 10 list
Post by: KansasCityCats on April 14, 2020, 10:27:13 AM
You could get dangerously wasted if you took a drink every time he adjusts his hair during the game. Drove me nuts when we played them a few years ago. After that, I couldn't focus on anything else when I saw Purdue games.
Title: Re: Purdue transfer 7'3 Haarms has Arizona on his final 10 list
Post by: Johnny-bravo on April 14, 2020, 01:52:49 PM
Quote from: KansasCityCats on April 14, 2020, 10:27:13 AM
You could get dangerously wasted if you took a drink every time he adjusts his hair during the game. Drove me nuts when we played them a few years ago. After that, I couldn't focus on anything else when I saw Purdue games.

It's his way of distracting other players. 
Title: Re: Purdue transfer 7'3 Haarms has Arizona on his final 10 list
Post by: ZonaBBB on April 15, 2020, 03:38:37 AM
I graduated from Purdue. I follow The Boilers. No where in the same league as Zona, but I watch all the games I can/receive group text messages each game from my college friends. I've watched Haarms play many games.

I didn't think he was much of anything besides size as a Freshman. He took a big leap from his freshman to sophomore year. Improvements were his offensive game, strength, and defensive post game. Sophomore and Junior years we're relatively the same.

Haarms big strengths are his defense,hustle, and the amount of energy he gives. I had a buddy that was almost annoyed by the energy. Whether it was a great play by another teammate, his own dunk, a blocked shot, etc. Haarms would be screaming let's go, hit both hands on the floor, scream "ahhhhhhh".  I have to say that I loved it and it fired me up almost. His defensive game is a difference maker. He is a great shot blocker. Timing, obedience, all of the above.  He also is tough. He plays tough and will piss his opponents off. Not a bad passer. Doesn't turn it over all that much in the post.

His weaknesses are offensively he doesn't give that much but had times he got going throughout an entire game. His shot wasn't great. He has a good post game.  He also lacks stamina. He would only play around 20 min a game. He leaves it all on the court so he tires easy.

I think he's a good fit for next season. He cut his hair last year so you might not have to worry about that.

Thought I'd share my take with the amount of times I saw him play. 

A side note: none of my friends sent me a bummer text message that Matt Haarms was transferring.
Title: Re: Purdue transfer 7'3 Haarms has Arizona on his final 10 list
Post by: WerderBremen on April 15, 2020, 05:19:58 AM
Appreciate the info. Thanks
Title: Re: Purdue transfer 7'3 Haarms has Arizona on his final 10 list
Post by: mvpreed2 on April 15, 2020, 05:41:39 AM
Quote from: ZonaBBB on April 15, 2020, 03:38:37 AMA side note: none of my friends sent me a bummer text message that Matt Haarms was transferring.
All of what you said, THIS is what stuck out to me the most.
7'3 C shot-blocking rim-runners do not grow on trees, and finding one in the Big 10 is like a unicorn.
He walks and NO ONE has an ounce of remorse about it?
Title: Re: Purdue transfer 7'3 Haarms has Arizona on his final 10 list
Post by: Jdmarti on April 15, 2020, 06:44:10 AM
Agreed .
Title: Re: Purdue transfer 7'3 Haarms has Arizona on his final 10 list
Post by: azhoopsfan on April 15, 2020, 11:05:54 AM
So basically a 7'3" Ira Lee?
Title: Re: Purdue transfer 7'3 Haarms has Arizona on his final 10 list
Post by: ZonaBBB on April 15, 2020, 11:52:10 AM
Better shot block timing/skills. Better on ball/face up defender in the post. Better scorer in the post.
Title: Re: Purdue transfer 7'3 Haarms has Arizona on his final 10 list
Post by: ZonaBBB on April 15, 2020, 11:55:05 AM
Quote from: mvpreed2 on April 15, 2020, 05:41:39 AM
Quote from: ZonaBBB on April 15, 2020, 03:38:37 AMA side note: none of my friends sent me a bummer text message that Matt Haarms was transferring.
All of what you said, THIS is what stuck out to me the most.
7'3 C shot-blocking rim-runners do not grow on trees, and finding one in the Big 10 is like a unicorn.
He walks and NO ONE has an ounce of remorse about it?

Not saying there was no remorse. I'm sure they all are disappointed and more just shocked. It was an odd transfer. Unexpected. He wasn't a superstar where it was immediate news.
Title: Re: Purdue transfer 7'3 Haarms has Arizona on his final 10 list
Post by: FOOS on April 15, 2020, 11:55:34 AM
Quote from: ZonaBBB on April 15, 2020, 11:52:10 AM
Better shot block timing/skills. Better on ball/face up defender in the post. Better scorer in the post.

Just like him only better in every aspect of the game :-)
Title: Re: Purdue transfer 7'3 Haarms has Arizona on his final 10 list
Post by: ZonaBBB on April 15, 2020, 12:41:10 PM
I'd prefer not to even compare him to Ira Lee. I like what Ira represents for the team and how he plays the game. Ira isn't a center either.