You'd have to think it helps that his brother Jacob Hazzard has already played under coach Miller.
https://twitter.com/ellieliebs/status/1113484939801047042
https://twitter.com/TheWildcaster/status/1113497677688217600
Would he consider walking on as well? I love the family connection & hope that he'd consider it a possibility.
I can't envision playing time for a scholarship player that has 2.1 assists per game; we have plenty of those guards/wings on the roster.
Hope we land him, the kid proved he can shoot and you can never have too many guys who can hit the three.
Quote from: KansasCityCats on April 03, 2019, 04:03:18 PM
Would he consider walking on as well? I love the family connection & hope that he'd consider it a possibility.
I can't envision playing time for a scholarship player that has 2.1 assists per game; we have plenty of those guards/wings on the roster.
UMM you guys clearly haven't watched him, 20 minutes backup guard is his floor, the question is whether he'll go to a place he probably won't start
With Jamie Dickson going UCLA, Hazzard would be a news worthy legacy get.
https://twitter.com/M12terAnderson/status/1113589766912528386
Quote from: Kasey on April 03, 2019, 07:40:29 PM
Quote from: KansasCityCats on April 03, 2019, 04:03:18 PM
Would he consider walking on as well? I love the family connection & hope that he'd consider it a possibility.
I can't envision playing time for a scholarship player that has 2.1 assists per game; we have plenty of those guards/wings on the roster.
UMM you guys clearly haven't watched him, 20 minutes backup guard is his floor, the question is whether he'll go to a place he probably won't start
Sometimes that is not the end all, be all.
It is easy to make that assumption, but we have no clue what he is looking for, or why he is even leaving UC Irvine, which has been known to have been a very good program, to start over somewhere else.
Sorry, but I don't see where a career 1.37 A:TO (in a bad conference) guard can fit in.
His shot is nice, but would you prefer that he takes away Josh Green's minutes? B-Will? Doutrive? Armstrong?
We have plenty of shooters. Barcello's defensive presence in limited minutes likely has more upside than bringing in a transfer (again).
Don't get me wrong, I won't be upset if Hazzard transfers in...but the existing kids on our roster will. I don't want any more animosity within the locker room.
Quote from: KansasCityCats on April 04, 2019, 06:33:43 AM
Sorry, but I don't see where a career 1.37 A:TO (in a bad conference) guard can fit in.
His shot is nice, but would you prefer that he takes away Josh Green's minutes? B-Will? Doutrive? Armstrong?
We have plenty of shooters. Barcello's defensive presence in limited minutes likely has more upside than bringing in a transfer (again).
Don't get me wrong, I won't be upset if Hazzard transfers in...but the existing kids on our roster will. I don't want any more animosity within the locker room.
All I was trying to get at, he could transfer in and not do much of anything.
Zach Peters is a very good example of someone who transferred in, played sparingly and we eventually knew he was not good enough and was not going to play.
I do not see Hazzard coming in and doing anything better than any of the guards we have on the roster right now.
I believe this was done in case we lost a player that was our shooter and we were in the market for a shooter to come off the bench.
Quote from: mvpreed2 on April 04, 2019, 06:52:05 AM
Quote from: KansasCityCats on April 04, 2019, 06:33:43 AM
Sorry, but I don't see where a career 1.37 A:TO (in a bad conference) guard can fit in.
His shot is nice, but would you prefer that he takes away Josh Green's minutes? B-Will? Doutrive? Armstrong?
We have plenty of shooters. Barcello's defensive presence in limited minutes likely has more upside than bringing in a transfer (again).
Don't get me wrong, I won't be upset if Hazzard transfers in...but the existing kids on our roster will. I don't want any more animosity within the locker room.
All I was trying to get at, he could transfer in and not do much of anything.
Zach Peters is a very good example of someone who transferred in, played sparingly and we eventually knew he was not good enough and was not going to play.
I do not see Hazzard coming in and doing anything better than any of the guards we have on the roster right now.
I believe this was done in case we lost a player that was our shooter and we were in the market for a shooter to come off the bench.
you guys are just looking at stats, watch this guy live and yes I would prefer he play over doutrive and barcello, he gives us another ball handler who can get to the basket every now and then, average defender and great shooter (which is a huge need) and betting on bwill being healthy is risky, nico will have enough minutes and josh and terry will play the 3
Is this under the assumption that Randolph is leaving? If not, I assumed he would share duties at the 3 with Armstrong while B-Will, Green and Barcello were at the SG position.
Either way, we have a lot of talent at the wing.
Hazzard will be in Tucson tomorrow for a visit.
https://mobile.twitter.com/goodmanhoops/status/1118271871714304002
Max on his Arizona visit today with the Wildcats being the heavy favorite to land him.
https://twitter.com/jakeweingarten/status/1119222329966518279
Any chance he commits this weekend?
I'm struggling to see where Hazzard would get minutes. I'd assume he's looking for playing time wherever he transfers to. His value, IMO, would only be if there were an injury where he could fill in. That said, if everybody is healthy, I'd much rather see the minutes go to Nico, Williams, Green, Armstrong, Doutrive, etc.
Quote from: UofA97 on April 20, 2019, 12:47:00 PM
I'm struggling to see where Hazzard would get minutes. I'd assume he's looking for playing time wherever he transfers to. His value, IMO, would only be if there were an injury where he could fill in. That said, if everybody is healthy, I'd much rather see the minutes go to Nico, Williams, Green, Armstrong, Doutrive, etc.
As much as it's great to play young guys, if we're a win now championship competitor team next year he would play over doutrive, and armstrong and green are likely the 3's so comparing them to hazzard is irrelevant. Nico, bwill and hazzard would play the pg/sg minutes which is likely 25 minutes or so each and that would still leave 6-7 for doutrive.
Quote from: Kasey on April 20, 2019, 09:43:28 PM
Quote from: UofA97 on April 20, 2019, 12:47:00 PM
I'm struggling to see where Hazzard would get minutes. I'd assume he's looking for playing time wherever he transfers to. His value, IMO, would only be if there were an injury where he could fill in. That said, if everybody is healthy, I'd much rather see the minutes go to Nico, Williams, Green, Armstrong, Doutrive, etc.
As much as it's great to play young guys, if we're a win now championship competitor team next year he would play over doutrive, and armstrong and green are likely the 3's so comparing them to hazzard is irrelevant. Nico, bwill and hazzard would play the pg/sg minutes which is likely 25 minutes or so each and that would still leave 6-7 for doutrive.
I believe this is where the disconnect lies.
I am going to assume people believe DD is going to have an increase in minutes.
NM/BW will start at PG/SG, I believe JG/TA will play SF, meaning the leftover minutes that NM or BW don't play at SG with go to DD, which I am guessing he will be the first G off the bench in this rotation.
the only time that Greene will play SF is when Nico and B-Will are both in the game. Otherwise, Josh will play SG.
Miller will utilize Gettings like he did Tollefsen at SF. Unless one of our point guards is hurt or in foul trouble, I can't envision how we don't have a logjam at the 2/3.
I guess we'll see if/when Hazzard commits.
I see us going small a lot using Josh and Terry in the game together a lot. Even with Nico and BWill in the game. 6'5"/6'6" wings can create a huge mis.atch when they are all over the court together. Small being with one big in. CSM will put his best players on the court.
Quote from: Little George on April 21, 2019, 12:49:49 PM
I see us going small a lot using Josh and Terry in the game together a lot. Even with Nico and BWill in the game. 6'5"/6'6" wings can create a huge mis.atch when they are all over the court together. Small being with one big in. CSM will put his best players on the court.
agree with this, small ball is a lot more popular than the huge lineups that are being suggested, and simply hitting 3s like hazzard does can be a lot more valuable than people think, say for example against Washington's zone
Miller's system is always defense first and guys who have defensive length and versatility will see the court together, but fun to dream about fun rotations.
Shooting lineup:
Mannion
Hazzard
Green/Armstrong
Gettings
Nnaji
Defensive length:
Mannion
Green
Armstrong
Lee
Jeter/Koloko
4-Guard:
Mannion
Williams
Green
Armstrong
Jeter
(Lol I am realizing all my favorite lineups are just Mannion/Green/Armstrong and then toss in 2 others)
No love for Doutrive in any of your lineups UAlum?
Either way, I believe these freshmen are going to have more weight on their shoulders than the 2012 recruiting class.
To some, they are going to be expected to come in and get us back on top and deep into the PAC-12 & NCAA tournament next season.
I'm not sure I'm aboard yet, but the potential is there..
Quote from: mvpreed2 on April 22, 2019, 12:04:08 PM
No love for Doutrive in any of your lineups UAlum?
Either way, I believe these freshmen are going to have more weight on their shoulders than the 2012 recruiting class.
To some, they are going to be expected to come in and get us back on top and deep into the PAC-12 & NCAA tournament next season.
I'm not sure I'm aboard yet, but the potential is there..
Spot on man. No doubt the talent is there for this team to compete for a Pac 12 Championship and potentially a Final 4 bid. But this is going to be a very young team with a lot of new faces entering the program and we still have some glaring question marks (interior/ perimeter shooting). But as usual the hype train is at full steam let's just hope our freshmen can handle it.
Quote from: ChrisZona on April 22, 2019, 02:01:33 PM
Quote from: mvpreed2 on April 22, 2019, 12:04:08 PM
No love for Doutrive in any of your lineups UAlum?
Either way, I believe these freshmen are going to have more weight on their shoulders than the 2012 recruiting class.
To some, they are going to be expected to come in and get us back on top and deep into the PAC-12 & NCAA tournament next season.
I'm not sure I'm aboard yet, but the potential is there..
Spot on man. No doubt the talent is there for this team to compete for a Pac 12 Championship and potentially a Final 4 bid. But this is going to be a very young team with a lot of new faces entering the program and we still have some glaring question marks (interior/ perimeter shooting). But as usual the hype train is at full steam let's just hope our freshmen can handle it.
I think the perimeter shooting will be by committee.
BW was decent, but adding NM/TA I believe will be respectable shooters, but we do lack that sub 40% sniper that most of our elite teams needed and/or had (York/McConnell/PJC/Markkanen).
If Miller continues this offense from last season, I'm going to hope the dribble-drive is effective enough to continue success on offense.
Now it comes to our Achilles heel, the zone offense, which Miller has never been able to crack with two good big (Ristic/Markkanen & Ristic/Ayton).
Quote from: mvpreed2 on April 22, 2019, 12:04:08 PM
No love for Doutrive in any of your lineups UAlum?
Either way, I believe these freshmen are going to have more weight on their shoulders than the 2012 recruiting class.
To some, they are going to be expected to come in and get us back on top and deep into the PAC-12 & NCAA tournament next season.
I'm not sure I'm aboard yet, but the potential is there..
Lol to be honest I just spaced Doutrive when writing that up quick. I think he could fit in any of those lineups as a do it all kinda guy, but at this point shooting and defense are particularly strengths (I know he shot 45% from 3 on a very limited sample)
Quote from: UAlum on April 22, 2019, 03:45:56 PM
Quote from: mvpreed2 on April 22, 2019, 12:04:08 PM
No love for Doutrive in any of your lineups UAlum?
Either way, I believe these freshmen are going to have more weight on their shoulders than the 2012 recruiting class.
To some, they are going to be expected to come in and get us back on top and deep into the PAC-12 & NCAA tournament next season.
I'm not sure I'm aboard yet, but the potential is there..
Lol to be honest I just spaced Doutrive when writing that up quick. I think he could fit in any of those lineups as a do it all kinda guy, but at this point shooting and defense are particularly strengths (I know he shot 45% from 3 on a very limited sample)
Righteous.
I'm not sure who is more slept on next season, Doutrive or Koloko?
Both appear to be glue guys but their skill set is going to be so important for us that they could easily be the reason a play is made that puts us over the top.
I am still baffled by the need for Hazzard unless the kid wants to be on a team that should be able to make a run. Counting on him to be a major contributor, or even solid contributor, in game isn't saying much for the rest of our guards like Barcello and Doutrive whom would be filling the 5-10 minute roles. We needed a Justing Coleman last year. Unless Williams has knee issues or we are about to lose Doutrive or Barcello, or Brown isn't an option, I hope we pass on this.
Quote from: Bear on April 23, 2019, 05:03:36 AM
I am still baffled by the need for Hazzard unless the kid wants to be on a team that should be able to make a run. Counting on him to be a major contributor, or even solid contributor, in game isn't saying much for the rest of our guards like Barcello and Doutrive whom would be filling the 5-10 minute roles. We needed a Justing Coleman last year. Unless Williams has knee issues or we are about to lose Doutrive or Barcello, or Brown isn't an option, I hope we pass on this.
I think he only comes here if he wants to be a part of a team capable of making a deep run, otherwise there are plenty of other schools that can offer more playing time. And Williams is always going to have knee issues so having an experienced back up pg seems like a need. Williams missed his entire junior season of high school after having surgery to correct osteochondritis dissecans, a joint condition in which bone underneath the cartilage of a joint dies due to lack of blood flow. He missed several games last year due to the same condition and it sounds like something that can't be treated or is going to go away.
Hazzard just committed - I'm excited to see what he brings to the team. Chose us over Gonzaga and some other good programs.
https://247sports.com/college/basketball/recruiting/Article/Arizona-Wildcats-Max-Hazzard-Sean-Miller-Graduate-Transfer-131376478/