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Title: NIT or Bust?
Post by: BDFC on February 11, 2019, 06:49:27 PM
Short of a miracle this years edition of Cats are not going dancing. So whats left? The CBI, and CIT are just unthinkable, I don't think it will come to that. The NIT would be happy with an ARIZONA in their field. Assuming the Cats can BEAR DOWN and finish strong. Last time the Cats went to the NIT they crushed it. Based on that failure alone I think if the Cats get the invite they should pass, don't need that embarrassment. With everything going on I believe the faster the Cats drop off the radar the better. I could argue against myself and say a team like this should take all the game time experience they can get, lots of youngsters. I'm not sure it matters. Maybe I'm just tired of watching this team, maybe I'll change my mind. Hope springs eternal.

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Title: Re: NIT or Bust?
Post by: KansasCityCats on February 12, 2019, 07:17:32 AM
Not sure if you were being sarcastic about crushing it in the NIT.  Cats have lost in the 1st round of all four of their NIT appearances (dating back to 1946).

The NIT would be ecstatic to have Arizona, however I'm not sure that we would a non-NCAA postseason would benefit the program.  It's completely possible that our fans show up in Vegas and we make a 4-game run for an auto-bid.  Most likely, we'll be preparing for 2019-2020.
Title: Re: NIT or Bust?
Post by: BearDown93 on February 12, 2019, 08:07:41 AM
Don't ever think you are too good for something. This year the NIT is not beneath the Arizona program. If it is then go prove it by winning the whole thing.
Title: Re: NIT or Bust?
Post by: AZCatFan83 on February 12, 2019, 09:04:09 AM
Would the football team pass on a low-end bowl game?!  Hell no!!  I would be ecstatic with a decent NIT run.  Something to keep me excited for, yes, I'm gonna say it.... NEXT YEAR!  I cant take the basketball depression anymore, and I am doing everything in my power to snap out of it.  Even if it means getting excited for a possible NIT bid.  I will continue to root for my Cats!  Win or lose!  I cant help it.  Its in my blood!
Title: Re: NIT or Bust?
Post by: WiscoAZfan19 on February 12, 2019, 09:12:25 AM
All I want to see is some progress each game even if it's only a little bit.
Title: Re: NIT or Bust?
Post by: Liquidated on February 12, 2019, 10:30:15 AM
Quote from: FlagCat on February 11, 2019, 06:49:27 PM
Short of a miracle this years edition of Cats are not going dancing. So whats left? The CBI, and CIT are just unthinkable, I don't think it will come to that. The NIT would be happy with an ARIZONA in their field. Assuming the Cats can BEAR DOWN and finish strong. Last time the Cats went to the NIT they crushed it. Based on that failure alone I think if the Cats get the invite they should pass, don't need that embarrassment. With everything going on I believe the faster the Cats drop off the radar the better. I could argue against myself and say a team like this should take all the game time experience they can get, lots of youngsters. I'm not sure it matters. Maybe I'm just tired of watching this team, maybe I'll change my mind. Hope springs eternal.

BearDown

I say we go to any tournament that will have us IF, and ONLY IF, we have a new head coach.
Title: Re: NIT or Bust?
Post by: ichi on February 12, 2019, 10:35:13 AM
Quote from: Liquidated on February 12, 2019, 10:30:15 AM
I say we go to any tournament that will have us IF, and ONLY IF, we have a new head coach.

are you Greg Hansen?  asking for a friend
Title: Re: NIT or Bust?
Post by: Liquidated on February 12, 2019, 02:05:35 PM
Quote from: ichi on February 12, 2019, 10:35:13 AM
Quote from: Liquidated on February 12, 2019, 10:30:15 AM
I say we go to any tournament that will have us IF, and ONLY IF, we have a new head coach.

are you Greg Hansen?  asking for a friend

No. I am not a journalist of any sort. But please find one who does it professionally who thinks Miller is not doomed.   
Title: Re: NIT or Bust?
Post by: Little George on February 12, 2019, 02:31:29 PM
Quote from: Liquidated on February 12, 2019, 02:05:35 PM
Quote from: ichi on February 12, 2019, 10:35:13 AM
Quote from: Liquidated on February 12, 2019, 10:30:15 AM
I say we go to any tournament that will have us IF, and ONLY IF, we have a new head coach.


I actually do know two that don't buy this crap. However, I do not know too many so called journalist that you could trust with much of anything because most of them only care about a story period. Hansen for one has been a notorious liar in many of his degrading articles about Arizona. Seems ESPN has also developed a hard on for CSM and Arizona. I believe that there are some sources from within the conference who have quietly/secretly been putting it to Arizona. Oregon has received a little of this lately as well, but not like Arizona. From the paid refs to T up CSM to the refusal a few years back to not Allowing ESPN to do a special show on Arizona basketball, the PAC 12 has treated Arizona as a lesser school. The PAC used the excuse that the ESPN show would violate the PAC agreement in money sharing but then allowed a similar show with other PAC schools only a short time later. Even the ABOR shows indifference between ASU and Arizona.  Enough of the poor Arizona stuff, but the sky is not falling all around us as so many think. I believe (unless CSM decides to leave on his own) that CSM will be here next year as our HC.

are you Greg Hansen?  asking for a friend

No. I am not a journalist of any sort. But please find one who does it professionally who thinks Miller is not doomed.
Title: Re: NIT or Bust?
Post by: BearDown93 on February 12, 2019, 07:41:35 PM
I've never really paid attention to the NIT but last year I caught a game and noticed that the games are played at one of the teams home courts.  I love that idea much more than playing in the ginormous stale arenas.
Title: Re: NIT or Bust?
Post by: U.P.Zonafan on February 12, 2019, 09:57:59 PM
These kids need all the playing time we can give them.  They came here to play basketball, this was always gonna be a down year.  There are games maybe they could have focused a little more and won, taken better shots. I as a fan will cheer for them no matter what tourney they are in. If they don't make the NCAA then go win the games you are playing. Use it as prep for next year. I'm sick of watching the lose, but man they are kids that want to play ball. I think it would be a disservice to not accept a tourney invite, and an act of arrogance.
Title: Re: NIT or Bust?
Post by: AZip on February 13, 2019, 12:11:29 AM
Does anyone think that this team is even an NIT worthy??   I want it to end as soon as the PAC-12 Tourney is over. I have no illusion of grnadier for this team.
Title: Re: NIT or Bust?
Post by: FOOS on February 13, 2019, 08:36:15 AM
Quote from: Liquidated on February 12, 2019, 10:30:15 AM
Quote from: FlagCat on February 11, 2019, 06:49:27 PM
Short of a miracle this years edition of Cats are not going dancing. So whats left? The CBI, and CIT are just unthinkable, I don't think it will come to that. The NIT would be happy with an ARIZONA in their field. Assuming the Cats can BEAR DOWN and finish strong. Last time the Cats went to the NIT they crushed it. Based on that failure alone I think if the Cats get the invite they should pass, don't need that embarrassment. With everything going on I believe the faster the Cats drop off the radar the better. I could argue against myself and say a team like this should take all the game time experience they can get, lots of youngsters. I'm not sure it matters. Maybe I'm just tired of watching this team, maybe I'll change my mind. Hope springs eternal.

BearDown

I say we go to any tournament that will have us IF, and ONLY IF, we have a new head coach.


So in your court of law it's guilty until proven innocent ?  nice
Title: Re: NIT or Bust?
Post by: BDFC on February 13, 2019, 10:46:56 AM
Quote from: KansasCityCats on February 12, 2019, 07:17:32 AM
Not sure if you were being sarcastic about crushing it in the NIT.  Cats have lost in the 1st round of all four of their NIT appearances (dating back to 1946).

The NIT would be ecstatic to have Arizona, however I'm not sure that we would a non-NCAA postseason would benefit the program.  It's completely possible that our fans show up in Vegas and we make a 4-game run for an auto-bid.  Most likely, we'll be preparing for 2019-2020.

Dripping with it, getting worked by a mid-major in front of a half empty McKale...again sounds awful. Too much down side to an NIT bid and not nearly enough up side to make it worth it.
Title: Re: NIT or Bust?
Post by: mvpreed2 on February 13, 2019, 09:24:27 PM
Bust.
Miller knew when he rejected the NIT bid in the 2011-12 season that Arizona is only interested in ONE tournament bid.
It would not surprise me for us to end our season early and allow Miller to recharge and get to recruiting the 2020 prospects and trying to complete our roster after departures for the 2019-20 season.
Title: Re: NIT or Bust?
Post by: Liquidated on February 14, 2019, 02:19:32 AM
Quote from: FOOS on February 13, 2019, 08:36:15 AM
Quote from: Liquidated on February 12, 2019, 10:30:15 AM
Quote from: FlagCat on February 11, 2019, 06:49:27 PM
Short of a miracle this years edition of Cats are not going dancing. So whats left? The CBI, and CIT are just unthinkable, I don't think it will come to that. The NIT would be happy with an ARIZONA in their field. Assuming the Cats can BEAR DOWN and finish strong. Last time the Cats went to the NIT they crushed it. Based on that failure alone I think if the Cats get the invite they should pass, don't need that embarrassment. With everything going on I believe the faster the Cats drop off the radar the better. I could argue against myself and say a team like this should take all the game time experience they can get, lots of youngsters. I'm not sure it matters. Maybe I'm just tired of watching this team, maybe I'll change my mind. Hope springs eternal.

BearDown

I say we go to any tournament that will have us IF, and ONLY IF, we have a new head coach.


So in your court of law it's guilty until proven innocent ?  nice

I don't know how much clearer of picture anyone needs...this program is dirty as heck, a dumpster fire of ethics - and that is just the stuff that has been admitted and is public record (Pitts sexual misconduct, Trier's PEDS, Plane Tickets for Pinder, Book, Pasternak, Phelps...) are you kidding? Do you really think Miller is innocent and that the ethical conduct of every (fired, ran away, suspended) assistant and some players just crumbled around him with him having no knowledge or responsibility for any of it? 

Title: Re: NIT or Bust?
Post by: Liquidated on February 14, 2019, 02:26:03 AM
Quote from: Little George on February 12, 2019, 02:31:29 PM
Quote from: Liquidated on February 12, 2019, 02:05:35 PM
Quote from: ichi on February 12, 2019, 10:35:13 AM
Quote from: Liquidated on February 12, 2019, 10:30:15 AM
I say we go to any tournament that will have us IF, and ONLY IF, we have a new head coach.


I actually do know two that don't buy this crap. However, I do not know too many so called journalist that you could trust with much of anything because most of them only care about a story period. Hansen for one has been a notorious liar in many of his degrading articles about Arizona. Seems ESPN has also developed a hard on for CSM and Arizona. I believe that there are some sources from within the conference who have quietly/secretly been putting it to Arizona. Oregon has received a little of this lately as well, but not like Arizona. From the paid refs to T up CSM to the refusal a few years back to not Allowing ESPN to do a special show on Arizona basketball, the PAC 12 has treated Arizona as a lesser school. The PAC used the excuse that the ESPN show would violate the PAC agreement in money sharing but then allowed a similar show with other PAC schools only a short time later. Even the ABOR shows indifference between ASU and Arizona.  Enough of the poor Arizona stuff, but the sky is not falling all around us as so many think. I believe (unless CSM decides to leave on his own) that CSM will be here next year as our HC.

are you Greg Hansen?  asking for a friend

No. I am not a journalist of any sort. But please find one who does it professionally who thinks Miller is not doomed.

Hansen is columnist, he writes opinions and they are not favorable because people read the train wreck stuff. Not sure that he is a proven liar, the tiff he had with Olson was over information Olson did not want published, not anything inaccurate or wrong.

I don't think ESPN (or anyone else on a national platform) is out to get Miller, Miller and his assistants and players brought this all on the program. I think ESPN And a few others all smell a cheating, dirty program and report on it, just as they would  and did report on UNLV, Auburn, Miami, USC... and all the other scumbag programs in FB and BB.
Title: Re: NIT or Bust?
Post by: KansasCityCats on February 14, 2019, 08:09:12 AM
At a minimum, Dukie V is out to get Miller.  His tweets make it pretty obvious that his colleagues screwed up...and were called-out for bad journalism.