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Title: Refs gave BYU a 1st down after fumble when it should've been 4th & 4
Post by: WILD on October 12, 2025, 04:11:27 PM
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Title: Re: Refs gave BYU a 1st down after fumble when it should've been 4th & 4
Post by: Little George on October 12, 2025, 04:39:54 PM
So, no pass interference against BYU.
First down when there was no first down.
How many other things? There a number of them. How can the refs even start a play and clock before the chains are set?
We still did not help our own cause.
Title: Re: Refs gave BYU a 1st down after fumble when it should've been 4th & 4
Post by: KansasCityCats on October 12, 2025, 08:36:23 PM
The Big-12 refs were suspended for the conference opener because they allowed Mizzou to illegally punt against KU.

Something minor like that resulted in repercussions. Allowing the above issues to occur?  I hope they're demoted, especially if the calls were intentional.
Title: Re: Refs gave BYU a 1st down after fumble when it should've been 4th & 4
Post by: Cactus🌵Cat on October 13, 2025, 12:46:50 PM
These big12 refs...
Worst of all time.
Title: Re: Refs gave BYU a 1st down after fumble when it should've been 4th & 4
Post by: arxpert on October 14, 2025, 01:58:19 PM
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I said "Holy Roller" when that happened. However, the Cats didn't deserve to win the game. Brennan is not Him. Fifita is a problematic QB. Unfortunately Noah is just not a Power4 level QB. He would do great at a school like San Jose State though.
Title: Re: Refs gave BYU a 1st down after fumble when it should've been 4th & 4
Post by: KansasCityCats on October 14, 2025, 02:27:35 PM
BYU's QB didn't deserve to win any more than Fifita. He was inaccurate and wild. Yes, he ran often because his O-line is massive.

Otherwise, Noah was the best QB on the field.
Title: Re: Refs gave BYU a 1st down after fumble when it should've been 4th & 4
Post by: arxpert on October 15, 2025, 12:17:58 AM
Quote from: KansasCityCats on October 14, 2025, 02:27:35 PMBYU's QB didn't deserve to win any more than Fifita. He was inaccurate and wild. Yes, he ran often because his O-line is massive.

Otherwise, Noah was the best QB on the field.

Noah didn't do anything to affect the game so he was in turn Not the best QB on the field. This, being College Football where many styles can prevail, you should know more than most that a QB's legs matter. Mahomes is probably the leading rusher on the Chiefs. Difference is, Mahomes can make a throw. Noah can't. Brennan went away from the plan. He started playing BYU's game and Noah thought he knew better. He got taught a lesson in Football. These are going to be the best days of his life since he has no Future in the game outside of maybe Coaching some young Usos.
Title: Re: Refs gave BYU a 1st down after fumble when it should've been 4th & 4
Post by: KansasCityCats on October 15, 2025, 06:53:29 AM
Don't discount a 55% completion percentage VS 41%. 

If Noah had Bachmeier's O-Line, he would have run for a million yards.  The freshman QB was bad...and Noah did enough to get the win in almost every situation on Saturday, specifically by sharing the ball with 8 different receivers. 

Only ONE WR on BYU's roster had more than 2 catches.  That's pretty ugly for 29 passing attempts.
Title: Re: Refs gave BYU a 1st down after fumble when it should've been 4th & 4
Post by: arxpert on October 15, 2025, 01:39:12 PM
Quote from: KansasCityCats on October 15, 2025, 06:53:29 AMDon't discount a 55% completion percentage VS 41%. 

If Noah had Bachmeier's O-Line, he would have run for a million yards.  The freshman QB was bad...and Noah did enough to get the win in almost every situation on Saturday, specifically by sharing the ball with 8 different receivers. 

Only ONE WR on BYU's roster had more than 2 catches.  That's pretty ugly for 29 passing attempts.

I understand Noah has been your Hero forever, but he is not a Power 4 QB and Brennan is not a Power 4 Head Coach.
Title: Re: Refs gave BYU a 1st down after fumble when it should've been 4th & 4
Post by: KansasCityCats on October 15, 2025, 09:24:11 PM
The latter hasn't been proven.

But Noah won as an underclassman, with a loaded roster and different staff. He is absolutely a Power 5 QB.
Title: Re: Refs gave BYU a 1st down after fumble when it should've been 4th & 4
Post by: arxpert on October 15, 2025, 11:48:33 PM
Quote from: KansasCityCats on October 15, 2025, 09:24:11 PMThe latter hasn't been proven.

But Noah won as an underclassman, with a loaded roster and different staff. He is absolutely a Power 5 QB.

Won or Carried?

Did Trent Dilfer Win a Superbowl with the greatest defense of all time? Yes

Was he a True Starting NFL Caliber QB, standalone who could lead a Franchise? No.

Same goes for Nick Foles.

Noah is not good enough to get Arizona to a CFP. I will eat my words if he can navigate us to the Big12 Title because Brennan is not a Power 4 Level Coach. So it would take herculean On-Field athletic performance for us to get there AND luck because Noah squandered the BYU game away with poor QB play down the stretch.
Title: Re: Refs gave BYU a 1st down after fumble when it should've been 4th & 4
Post by: KansasCityCats on October 16, 2025, 04:41:30 AM
No way Fifita isn't a Power 5 QB. Has he uncharacteristically missed throws over the past two seasons? Yes. Despite his size and an O-Line that hasn't provided time, he finds ways to keep our team in the game.