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Title: Henri Veesaar is transferring to North Carolina
Post by: WILD on April 01, 2025, 05:30:03 PM
Tarheel now
Title: Re: Henri Veesaar is transferring to North Carolina
Post by: mvpreed2 on April 01, 2025, 06:46:33 PM
Wait a minute...when did Veesaar enter the portal?
He must have had a no-contact order, which means he knew he was going to North Carolina from jump.
Well, that could mean that he contacted a handful of programs and UNC is the program that won the race.

I hope this means that Krivas/Stephen are going to be playing C next season, and Lloyd does not bring in another C to jump Stephen on the depth chart?
EDIT: I just seen Stephen entered the portal also.
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Title: Re: Henri Veesaar is transferring to North Carolina
Post by: arxpert on April 01, 2025, 07:57:13 PM
Quote from: WILD on April 01, 2025, 05:30:03 PMTarheel now

April Fools or Not, I am very crestfallen

Henri will be good at UNC (if it's 100%). They have some studs incoming.

However I do think Henri peaked in Tommy's system / under Tommy's coaching. So realistically I wish he were with us for continuity, but that "core" is basically gone anyway.
Title: Re: Henri Veesaar is transferring to North Carolina
Post by: arxpert on April 01, 2025, 07:59:42 PM
This is also 1 big reason I wish there were poison pills in these NIL contracts. Henri should have to pay Arizona some money from his new deal if true. It would be completely evident that tampering occurred.

I really think that Arizona should be entitled to 10-20% sent back to our NIL fund.

This would be a smart way to conduct business and get players to want to honor their commitments.

A real GM may be necessary. Tommy isn't a numbers guy.
Title: Re: Henri Veesaar is transferring to North Carolina
Post by: Jdmarti on April 02, 2025, 03:34:31 PM
Disappointing I really was hoping henri would be our starting center
Next year, he was our best defensive big, an liked his spacing the court ability, an loved that he liked to dunk the ball.

There was obviously  tampering going on, he barely entered portal an unc is the favorite, they probably  offered him a lot of dough.
Title: Re: Henri Veesaar is transferring to North Carolina
Post by: AZ to VA on April 03, 2025, 05:56:37 PM
How is he collecting money as a international player off of this
Title: Re: Henri Veesaar is transferring to North Carolina
Post by: WILD on April 03, 2025, 06:47:06 PM
Henri not committing to UNC as of yet is a very good sign.
Title: Re: Henri Veesaar is transferring to North Carolina
Post by: |ᴘ|ʀ|ʏ|ᴍ|ᴇ| on April 03, 2025, 07:52:20 PM
Quote from: AZ to VA on April 03, 2025, 05:56:37 PMHow is he collecting money as a international player off of this

Idk the exact details of this stuff, but there's clearly a grey area or exception that exists for international players to benefit financially to a certain degree without violating the terms of their academic status.

If anybody has a solid understanding of the ins and outs, please inform us if you can.
Title: Re: Henri Veesaar is transferring to North Carolina
Post by: mvpreed2 on April 04, 2025, 12:24:47 AM
Quote from: |ᴘ|ʀ|ʏ|ᴍ|ᴇ| on April 03, 2025, 07:52:20 PM
Quote from: AZ to VA on April 03, 2025, 05:56:37 PMHow is he collecting money as a international player off of this

Idk the exact details of this stuff, but there's clearly a grey area or exception that exists for international players to benefit financially to a certain degree without violating the terms of their academic status.

If anybody has a solid understanding of the ins and outs, please inform us if you can.
The way I understood it is that no international prospect can profit off of NIL.
I remember seeing a clip of an interview with Edey last season and a reporter asked him a question (which I forget at the moment).
His response was something like, "It sucks not being able to profit off of my likeness..."
The main reason is because most of them are here on a student VISAs and the parameters of that affecting their eligibility.
There are loopholes around this, but they will never be able to have a NIL package like Caleb Williams, Juju Watkins, or the Cavinder twins had here in America.
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Title: Re: Henri Veesaar is transferring to North Carolina
Post by: arxpert on April 05, 2025, 12:14:42 AM
Quote from: |ᴘ|ʀ|ʏ|ᴍ|ᴇ| on April 03, 2025, 07:52:20 PM
Quote from: AZ to VA on April 03, 2025, 05:56:37 PMHow is he collecting money as a international player off of this

Idk the exact details of this stuff, but there's clearly a grey area or exception that exists for international players to benefit financially to a certain degree without violating the terms of their academic status.

If anybody has a solid understanding of the ins and outs, please inform us if you can.

F-1 Visa Restrictions:
International student-athletes are typically on F-1 visas, which limit their ability to work while in the US, including engaging in NIL deals that could be considered "work".

Visa Concerns:
The question of whether money made through NIL deals constitutes "work" for visa purposes remains open, and the current visa regulations pose a significant hurdle for international athletes seeking to participate in NIL activities.

Passive Engagement:
While direct NIL deals are restricted, international athletes can potentially profit from "passive" engagements like merchandise sales or video game licensing agreements that don't involve active work in the US.

Home Country Activities:
International athletes can freely engage in NIL activities and receive compensation in their home countries, provided they are not performing services while in the US on an F-1 visa.

Seeking Workarounds:
Some international student-athletes are exploring alternative immigration statuses or strategies to potentially participate in revenue-generating NIL activities, such as dual citizenship or seeking specific visas like the P-1A (pro athlete visa) or O-1 (extraordinary ability visa).

University Guidance:
Universities and athletic departments are advising international student-athletes to avoid NIL activities entirely or to participate only if the "work" can be completed entirely in their home country and payment is made and accepted there.

So basically UNC bought Henri whatever he wanted in Estonia setting up a fund there that will make him generationally wealthy. Got it.
Title: Re: Henri Veesaar is transferring to North Carolina
Post by: Jdmarti on April 05, 2025, 09:19:22 AM
Good by henri unc obviously threw a big bag his way, an he went for it
He will be missed here,  good for him to get paid, but I dought he is going to get much development there, that he would have had under, Tommy, good luck to him however there .
Title: Re: Henri Veesaar is transferring to North Carolina
Post by: arxpert on April 05, 2025, 03:04:09 PM
Quote from: Jdmarti on April 05, 2025, 09:19:22 AMGood by henri unc obviously threw a big bag his way, an he went for it
He will be missed here,  good for him to get paid, but I dought he is going to get much development there, that he would have had under, Tommy, good luck to him however there .

Oumar Ballo probably lost some contractual monies by not making the Big Dance... he got 1.2 Million I believe.. or at least that was his Demand. Very smart considering he isn't NBA material.