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Title: West Virginia is sueing the NCAA & it makes total sense 👀
Post by: WILD on March 17, 2025, 09:25:53 PM
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Title: Re: West Virginia is sueing the NCAA & it makes total sense 👀
Post by: KansasCityCats on March 18, 2025, 04:51:58 AM
Stop loading important games at the end of the season. If their rankings weren't in the 50's, they'd be in.

If anybody should be crying, it's Boise.
Title: Re: West Virginia is sueing the NCAA & it makes total sense 👀
Post by: Little George on March 18, 2025, 05:36:52 AM
Quote from: KansasCityCats on March 18, 2025, 04:51:58 AMStop loading important games at the end of the season. If their rankings weren't in the 50's, they'd be in.

If anybody should be crying, it's Boise.

While I agree with the idea, the fact is there is much favortism/corruption in the ncaa/espn is not in question!
Boise and WVa would rank ahead of UNC and UT. We have this issue annually don't we? I think so.

I personally despise espn and the ncaa.
Title: Re: West Virginia is sueing the NCAA & it makes total sense 👀
Post by: KansasCityCats on March 18, 2025, 07:00:40 AM
There's always an argument from some 19-13 team but this is the first year in a long time that a school made the field and it was completely obvious that they didn't belong (UNC).

WVU had a great Non-Con season but finished 10-10 in the third best conference, not including an embarrassing tourney loss to CU, which essentially stole their bid.

Carolina hasn't lost to anybody "not named Dook" since Valentine's Day. The committee takes recent success into account and the Mountaineers haven't wowed anybody lately, as their last quality Big-12 win was hosting Iowa State in January.
Title: Re: West Virginia is sueing the NCAA & it makes total sense 👀
Post by: arxpert on March 18, 2025, 10:23:17 AM
Quote from: KansasCityCats on March 18, 2025, 07:00:40 AMThere's always an argument from some 19-13 team but this is the first year in a long time that a school made the field and it was completely obvious that they didn't belong (UNC).

WVU had a great Non-Con season but finished 10-10 in the third best conference, not including an embarrassing tourney loss to CU, which essentially stole their bid.

Carolina hasn't lost to anybody "not named Dook" since Valentine's Day. The committee takes recent success into account and the Mountaineers haven't wowed anybody lately, as their last quality Big-12 win was hosting Iowa State in January.

It's not just UNC/WVU. Purdue completely lost it's way into the Big Dance and got a 4 seed for it. BYU was crushing teams down the stretch and got a 6 seed for it while Kansas was heavily mediocre and got a 7 when they beat us in the last game of the Reg Season at home, but lost to basically everyone else down the stretch too. There are way too many contradictions all around, but the fact of the matter there are big money and politics in play and no one has to answer for it.

I don't care about UNC's AD leaving the room. He got his 100k from his buddies. There should be no AD's in the process. It is more corrupt than "DC" because the Private Sector cannot even be influenced by a Freedom of Information Act.

Texas, Oklahoma, Baylor, Georgia and Arkansas are good examples of teams that didn't belong in either, but the NCAA couldn't have Lottery Picks "~ #4, 5, 6, 7, 8" not part of their Big Dance.

Ace Bailey and Dylan Harper already scammed the NIL system enough this year.

VJ Edgecombe
Tre Johnson
Jeremiah Fears
Boogie Fland
Asa Newell

Can't have a dance without these guys in it according to the NCAA.

Teams like Boise possibly deserved it more, but also in the Super Conference Era now there are going to to be bloated or inflated rankings/numbers for teams who play "too many" Quad 1 games too often.

A team like UC Irvine and Northern Colorado should have made it in with a 2 Bid Mid Major League in this sense Easily. Both were very well equipped.

Scheduling, Recency Bias... Quad 1 can easily be manipulated week to week anyway and is a meaningless qualifier.

Just get used to the new way.

We all saw it happen in Football when Indiana went to the CFP and people said they didn't belong in over "Alabama" or whoever else because they had an easy schedule in a huge conference that boosted them and they pulled off basically 1 good win along the way.

Every year in the CFP going forward there will be someone with an easier path in a Power Conference by the nature of having super conferences with too many schedules and no one will care about scheduling a tough OOC game early the year because when their turn in the easy scheduling path will come and they have no reason to risk an extra loss.

Now we are getting/seeing a March Madness bracket that is basically doing it the other way by stacking the heavy Bid Conferences on top of each other in Regions that make no sense because there is no other way to do it as they have bit off more than they can chew.

West Virginia is the least of the NCAA's problems.
Title: Re: West Virginia is sueing the NCAA & it makes total sense 👀
Post by: KansasCityCats on March 18, 2025, 02:09:01 PM
There isn't an ideal way to pick a ridiculously large pool for the tournament. Even if you removed AD's from the process and replaced them with college basketball experts, 99% of the educated basketball fans have some bias and/or affiliation.

The only way to eliminate the human element is to strictly use computer rankings...which would have placed UNC in the tournament because they're the ONLY bubble team with consensus rankings in the top-40.
Title: Re: West Virginia is sueing the NCAA & it makes total sense 👀
Post by: arxpert on March 18, 2025, 03:25:21 PM
Quote from: KansasCityCats on March 18, 2025, 02:09:01 PMThere isn't an ideal way to pick a ridiculously large pool for the tournament. Even if you removed AD's from the process and replaced them with college basketball experts, 99% of the educated basketball fans have some bias and/or affiliation.

The only way to eliminate the human element is to strictly use computer rankings...which would have placed UNC in the tournament because they're the ONLY bubble team with consensus rankings in the top-40.

Close, but no cigar is not a qualitative metric that should be considered.
Title: Re: West Virginia is sueing the NCAA & it makes total sense 👀
Post by: KansasCityCats on March 18, 2025, 04:36:34 PM
I agree.  The existing system is the only one that works.  Perhaps the NCAA could do a better job of selecting the committee but with the exception of this year, it has been a long time since fans had a legitimate reason to complain about the field.  It's silly that 68 teams are invited at all...the 50th best team in the country shouldn't have an opportunity to win a National Title.
Title: Re: West Virginia is sueing the NCAA & it makes total sense 👀
Post by: arxpert on March 20, 2025, 10:48:14 AM
Quote from: KansasCityCats on March 18, 2025, 04:36:34 PMI agree.  The existing system is the only one that works.  Perhaps the NCAA could do a better job of selecting the committee but with the exception of this year, it has been a long time since fans had a legitimate reason to complain about the field.  It's silly that 68 teams are invited at all...the 50th best team in the country shouldn't have an opportunity to win a National Title.

It won't continue to work the way fans are accustomed to in the era of Super conferences. The qualifiers are all skewed.