The Cannon Sanon is as advertised. Another terrible mistake by Tommy.
Quote from: arxpert on November 29, 2024, 10:36:17 PMThe Cannon Sanon is as advertised. Another terrible mistake by Tommy.
After Tommy nabbed Carter he left correct ? What a shit show
Quote from: FOOS on November 30, 2024, 07:40:02 AMQuote from: arxpert on November 29, 2024, 10:36:17 PMThe Cannon Sanon is as advertised. Another terrible mistake by Tommy.
After Tommy nabbed Carter he left correct ? What a shit show
I think it was more of a product of Love's late decision to come back, but I may be wrong on that.
Yes, Love spoiled it by returning, not Bryant.
Zoom Diallo is doing decent too
Quote from: KansasCityCats on November 30, 2024, 01:04:02 PMYes, Love spoiled it by returning, not Bryant.
that's it. thx KC
Quote from: FOOS on November 30, 2024, 07:40:02 AMQuote from: arxpert on November 29, 2024, 10:36:17 PMThe Cannon Sanon is as advertised. Another terrible mistake by Tommy.
After Tommy nabbed Carter he left correct ? What a shit show
Tommy secured Tony Del Orso which was the final straw from my POV.
It is of my belief that Tommy forced Sanon out over "money" and Sanon was willing to play with Caleb Love - but not behind Love.
You get what you pay for.
Quote from: KansasCityCats on November 30, 2024, 01:04:02 PMYes, Love spoiled it by returning, not Bryant.
Hard disagree. Tommy made it very clear he wasn't going to allow the payroll increase. Tommy is cheap. I call it how it is. So we get a Tony Del Orso instead of a Sanon.
Quote from: |ᴘ|ʀ|ʏ|ᴍ|ᴇ| on November 30, 2024, 01:06:17 PMZoom Diallo is doing decent too
A good call, but I am mostly posting from what we "had" or "should have had" that Tommy royally F'ed up. I don't think we ever had Zoom overall, but maybe Tommy was too cheap for him too.
Lloyd doesn't control the money decisions. He's somewhat of a "middle man" but Sanon wanted to play somewhere that he could be "the guy". When he realized that Arizona won't allow him to be the focal point (specifically with the conference POY returning), he jumped to a program that hasn't had an NBA-caliber name since 2009.
Quote from: KansasCityCats on December 02, 2024, 08:07:36 AMLloyd doesn't control the money decisions. He's somewhat of a "middle man" but Sanon wanted to play somewhere that he could be "the guy". When he realized that Arizona won't allow him to be the focal point (specifically with the conference POY returning), he jumped to a program that hasn't had an NBA-caliber name since 2009.
We all know t. lloyd runs a tight ship including clutching his purse strings and what he says goes.
It all comes back to t. lloyd when the buck figuratively and literately stops.
Quote from: arxpert on November 30, 2024, 05:52:01 PMQuote from: FOOS on November 30, 2024, 07:40:02 AMQuote from: arxpert on November 29, 2024, 10:36:17 PMThe Cannon Sanon is as advertised. Another terrible mistake by Tommy.
After Tommy nabbed Carter he left correct ? What a shit show
Tommy secured Tony Del Orso which was the final straw from my POV.
It is of my belief that Tommy forced Sanon out over "money" and Sanon was willing to play with Caleb Love - but not behind Love.
You get what you pay for.
This entire statement is completely inaccurate
Quote from: arxpert on November 30, 2024, 05:54:07 PMQuote from: KansasCityCats on November 30, 2024, 01:04:02 PMYes, Love spoiled it by returning, not Bryant.
Hard disagree. Tommy made it very clear he wasn't going to allow the payroll increase. Tommy is cheap. I call it how it is. So we get a Tony Del Orso instead of a Sanon.
When did Lloyd say this? Please quote him saying that.
Quote from: KansasCityCats on December 02, 2024, 08:07:36 AMLloyd doesn't control the money decisions. He's somewhat of a "middle man" but Sanon wanted to play somewhere that he could be "the guy". When he realized that Arizona won't allow him to be the focal point (specifically with the conference POY returning), he jumped to a program that hasn't had an NBA-caliber name since 2009.
This is exactly right. Other's should take notes lol
Quote from: KansasCityCats on December 02, 2024, 08:07:36 AMLloyd doesn't control the money decisions. He's somewhat of a "middle man" but Sanon wanted to play somewhere that he could be "the guy". When he realized that Arizona won't allow him to be the focal point (specifically with the conference POY returning), he jumped to a program that hasn't had an NBA-caliber name since 2009.
I disagree. Tommy is not having it when it comes to the players earning crazy money. He is allowing 1 guy to earn basically, but he doesn't want the egos. Overall he needs to full detach. He is a piss poor middle man if that is what you want to call him. He needs to just "shut up and coach" if that is the prevailing concept. This Program needs a GM that can relate to the kids and show them what it means to earn their paycheck.
I don't care what you say, it is of my belief that Sanon (and his handlers) wanted the money and there was no issue with playing with Love at all.
Quote from: Zona Nation on December 02, 2024, 03:19:08 PMQuote from: arxpert on November 30, 2024, 05:52:01 PMQuote from: FOOS on November 30, 2024, 07:40:02 AMQuote from: arxpert on November 29, 2024, 10:36:17 PMThe Cannon Sanon is as advertised. Another terrible mistake by Tommy.
After Tommy nabbed Carter he left correct ? What a shit show
Tommy secured Tony Del Orso which was the final straw from my POV.
It is of my belief that Tommy forced Sanon out over "money" and Sanon was willing to play with Caleb Love - but not behind Love.
You get what you pay for.
This entire statement is completely inaccurate
It is not inaccurate. Sanon had no issue as long as his paycheck cleared.
Quote from: Zona Nation on December 02, 2024, 03:20:38 PMQuote from: arxpert on November 30, 2024, 05:54:07 PMQuote from: KansasCityCats on November 30, 2024, 01:04:02 PMYes, Love spoiled it by returning, not Bryant.
Hard disagree. Tommy made it very clear he wasn't going to allow the payroll increase. Tommy is cheap. I call it how it is. So we get a Tony Del Orso instead of a Sanon.
When did Lloyd say this? Please quote him saying that.
Please quote where Sanon said he will not come to Arizona because he did not want anything to do with playing with Caleb Love. It goes both ways.
Their rumored "sit down/meeting at the summit to discuss the future of the history of the universe" was just that. A rumor.
A tweet means nothing.
You want to believe what Mike Luke tells you? Go ahead.
Sanon was all about his tokens. He didn't get them. Caleb got it. That was the prevailing factor. Sanon would have chucked his shots and he would have outshined Love by now. When the money is spent, it is spent. Can't put the toothpaste back in the tube.
In fact Mike Luke used to rant and rave about KJ being a de facto starter and there was no compromise on that. KJ is already ASKING to come off the bench because he values winning and contributing. So in the end, Tommy just didn't want the payroll getting out of control.
He got scared. I admit it. Others are admitting it or starting to come around to admitting it. He is a novice Head Coach. It is definitely understandable for him to be scared. When the payroll is high, there are high expectations. From the payors and the players - not even counting the fans.
News flash to Tommy - The fear he had... it is there no matter what. He is to perform no matter what. That is what we are seeing a failure in this year.
We need a GM. Tommy should just coach the team. He doesn't need to be fumbling the bag on roster building like this. I still hope he can pull it all together.
https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/player/gamelog/_/id/5142625/joson-sanon
Getting more and more dominant by the game too.
It's ok to make assumptions. It Sanon decommitted within FIFTEEN minutes of Love's announcement to return.
That isn't a coincidence.
Quote from: arxpert on December 07, 2024, 11:35:36 PMQuote from: Zona Nation on December 02, 2024, 03:19:08 PMQuote from: arxpert on November 30, 2024, 05:52:01 PMQuote from: FOOS on November 30, 2024, 07:40:02 AMQuote from: arxpert on November 29, 2024, 10:36:17 PMThe Cannon Sanon is as advertised. Another terrible mistake by Tommy.
After Tommy nabbed Carter he left correct ? What a shit show
Tommy secured Tony Del Orso which was the final straw from my POV.
It is of my belief that Tommy forced Sanon out over "money" and Sanon was willing to play with Caleb Love - but not behind Love.
You get what you pay for.
This entire statement is completely inaccurate
It is not inaccurate. Sanon had no issue as long as his paycheck cleared.
You completely made this up
Quote from: arxpert on December 07, 2024, 11:48:24 PMQuote from: Zona Nation on December 02, 2024, 03:20:38 PMQuote from: arxpert on November 30, 2024, 05:54:07 PMQuote from: KansasCityCats on November 30, 2024, 01:04:02 PMYes, Love spoiled it by returning, not Bryant.
Hard disagree. Tommy made it very clear he wasn't going to allow the payroll increase. Tommy is cheap. I call it how it is. So we get a Tony Del Orso instead of a Sanon.
When did Lloyd say this? Please quote him saying that.
Please quote where Sanon said he will not come to Arizona because he did not want anything to do with playing with Caleb Love. It goes both ways.
Their rumored "sit down/meeting at the summit to discuss the future of the history of the universe" was just that. A rumor.
A tweet means nothing.
You want to believe what Mike Luke tells you? Go ahead.
Sanon was all about his tokens. He didn't get them. Caleb got it. That was the prevailing factor. Sanon would have chucked his shots and he would have outshined Love by now. When the money is spent, it is spent. Can't put the toothpaste back in the tube.
In fact Mike Luke used to rant and rave about KJ being a de facto starter and there was no compromise on that. KJ is already ASKING to come off the bench because he values winning and contributing. So in the end, Tommy just didn't want the payroll getting out of control.
He got scared. I admit it. Others are admitting it or starting to come around to admitting it. He is a novice Head Coach. It is definitely understandable for him to be scared. When the payroll is high, there are high expectations. From the payors and the players - not even counting the fans.
News flash to Tommy - The fear he had... it is there no matter what. He is to perform no matter what. That is what we are seeing a failure in this year.
We need a GM. Tommy should just coach the team. He doesn't need to be fumbling the bag on roster building like this. I still hope he can pull it all together.
who's gonna tell him we already have a GM? LMFAO
Quote from: Zona Nation on December 08, 2024, 09:16:56 AMQuote from: arxpert on December 07, 2024, 11:48:24 PMQuote from: Zona Nation on December 02, 2024, 03:20:38 PMQuote from: arxpert on November 30, 2024, 05:54:07 PMQuote from: KansasCityCats on November 30, 2024, 01:04:02 PMYes, Love spoiled it by returning, not Bryant.
Hard disagree. Tommy made it very clear he wasn't going to allow the payroll increase. Tommy is cheap. I call it how it is. So we get a Tony Del Orso instead of a Sanon.
When did Lloyd say this? Please quote him saying that.
Please quote where Sanon said he will not come to Arizona because he did not want anything to do with playing with Caleb Love. It goes both ways.
Their rumored "sit down/meeting at the summit to discuss the future of the history of the universe" was just that. A rumor.
A tweet means nothing.
You want to believe what Mike Luke tells you? Go ahead.
Sanon was all about his tokens. He didn't get them. Caleb got it. That was the prevailing factor. Sanon would have chucked his shots and he would have outshined Love by now. When the money is spent, it is spent. Can't put the toothpaste back in the tube.
In fact Mike Luke used to rant and rave about KJ being a de facto starter and there was no compromise on that. KJ is already ASKING to come off the bench because he values winning and contributing. So in the end, Tommy just didn't want the payroll getting out of control.
He got scared. I admit it. Others are admitting it or starting to come around to admitting it. He is a novice Head Coach. It is definitely understandable for him to be scared. When the payroll is high, there are high expectations. From the payors and the players - not even counting the fans.
News flash to Tommy - The fear he had... it is there no matter what. He is to perform no matter what. That is what we are seeing a failure in this year.
We need a GM. Tommy should just coach the team. He doesn't need to be fumbling the bag on roster building like this. I still hope he can pull it all together.
who's gonna tell him we already have a GM? LMFAO
Matt King, if that is who you are referring to, is not a real GM. He is President of Basketball Operations. This is why I posted about a GM search. I even doubt anyone on the roster has even met King in any meaningful way.
You can find the roster here.
https://arizonawildcats.com/sports/mens-basketball/coaches
We need a true GM.
Sanon transferring to St John's.
I felt he had a chance to go pro. Maybe he will hedge and still test the waters.
If someone has the Financials of his NIL deal post it.
I think he will be better off on St John's and Pitino will be a good coach for him because he definitely won't put up with any shit as we saw he benched the Big East Player of the Year to prove a point.
Either way, not surprised. ASU is a hell hole. I have no idea why anyone good would would want to go there
Sanon also may become the next Quinerly. All hype and transferring every year.
Quote from: arxpert on March 26, 2025, 11:59:18 AMSanon also may become the next Quinerly. All hype and transferring every year.
He would have to tear his ACL first for
there to be any comparison made.
Quote from: |ᴘ|ʀ|ʏ|ᴍ|ᴇ| on March 26, 2025, 02:01:02 PMQuote from: arxpert on March 26, 2025, 11:59:18 AMSanon also may become the next Quinerly. All hype and transferring every year.
He would have to tear his ACL first for
there to be any comparison made.
You're right, Sanon is way better at the moment
Quote from: arxpert on March 26, 2025, 03:39:53 PMQuote from: |ᴘ|ʀ|ʏ|ᴍ|ᴇ| on March 26, 2025, 02:01:02 PMQuote from: arxpert on March 26, 2025, 11:59:18 AMSanon also may become the next Quinerly. All hype and transferring every year.
He would have to tear his ACL first for
there to be any comparison made.
You're right, Sanon is way better at the moment
LOLLL
I think Quinerly's sister is the better of the two siblings. Tore it up for WVU this year.
Sanon should have gone pro. Scouts won't ding him for struggling because assu was a disaster. When he's in the league someday, he'll claim SJU as his Alma mater, which is slightly better...but I'll still cheer against him for eternity.