Robbins will make "Draconian cuts" to budgets and blames athletics in an all hands on deck meeting today.
Ouch!
For a bunch of smart individuals it seems like a series of very bad over sights at best.
https://tucson.com/news/local/education/college/university-of-arizona-tucson-budget-cuts/article_1dd77a46-7d96-11ee-ac38-ef7fe0919160.html#tracking-source=home-top-story
Real issues around finances have only grown bigger with expanded costs of inflation. There is no magic wand to fix anything. I only hope we do not see the athletic dept leased out or cut to pieces.
Quote from: Little George on November 07, 2023, 09:57:20 PMReal issues around finances have only grown bigger with expanded costs of inflation. There is no magic wand to fix anything. I only hope we do not see the athletic dept leased out or cut to pieces.
This entire article has me disconsolate and crestfallen.Cut costs/spending/budgets?????????????? LOL.
https://uair.arizona.edu/content/revenue-expenditures
I think that anyone who has a receipt for paying for Tuition should be entitled to a % of dividends in relation to total credits paid for every single Academic Session. (i.e. Fall, Winter, Spring, Pre-Summer, Summer 1, Summer 2, Online etc).
It is absurd to hear something as Ghoulish as we need to make DRACONIAN cuts
It really is disappointing.
They are just one in a series of West Coast schools dealing with budget issues. WSU is running on a skeleton crew in their athletic department for example and UCLA's woes are well publicized.
I had hoped AZ would keep things in check but Robbins apparently not even being aware of the problem until recently in this financial environment is deeply concerning.
We're a football school now, so I doubt anyone would be disappointed if we cut the basketball program.
FB and BB money now matters more than ever.
Bowl games and deep tourney runs bring more money!
Just saying
Does no one here realize that the Athletic Department budget is completely separate and distinct from any academic budgets? Athletics literally has its own department and handles its own affairs separate from what Robbins is in charge of... Robbins may still be President and can hire the AD, but the AD and Athletics pay for themselves.
Draconian cuts may be coming to the University, but not to the athletic department. Had we failed to jump the PAC12 ship and go to the BIG12, yes... we very well could have been in he same boat with the likes of WSU, who has real problems to survive. But our athletic department will be fine, at least until the next major realignment.
Quote from: 94FinalFour on November 09, 2023, 08:55:53 AMDoes no one here realize that the Athletic Department budget is completely separate and distinct from any academic budgets? Athletics literally has its own department and handles its own affairs separate from what Robbins is in charge of... Robbins may still be President and can hire the AD, but the AD and Athletics pay for themselves.
Draconian cuts may be coming to the University, but not to the athletic department. Had we failed to jump the PAC12 ship and go to the BIG12, yes... we very well could have been in he same boat with the likes of WSU, who has real problems to survive. But our athletic department will be fine, at least until the next major realignment.
Yes, but the perception speaks when a school is having financial issues and building their sports programs.
My questions is then why is Robbins talking about cutting certain sports if there's a separate budget for the athletic department?
I'm hearing we lost a lot of money due to the COVID pandemic and we were in a similar situation budget wise back in 2013.
Quote from: WILD on November 09, 2023, 12:35:27 PMMy questions is then why is Robbins talking about cutting certain sports if there's a separate budget for the athletic department?
I'm hearing we lost a lot of money due to the COVID pandemic and we were in a similar situation budget wise back in 2013.
There's no way we lost money in the pandemic and every other school didn't if that's the case so I am not even shook by that thought.
I also don't think anything about this should have any attention on the sports programs. We are not IMG Academy. This is a massive public college.
There is definitely shady stuff going on with these "free tuition for Dreamers" nonsense. Stinks of kickbacks and tax breaks.
The school is not hemorrhaging money. It is profitable.
The only Draconian cuts that need to happen are the salaries of the ghouls.
Classes are bigger, tuition is higher. There are more avenues for profit than ever (online school).
Quote from: Little George on November 09, 2023, 09:27:03 AMQuote from: 94FinalFour on November 09, 2023, 08:55:53 AMDoes no one here realize that the Athletic Department budget is completely separate and distinct from any academic budgets? Athletics literally has its own department and handles its own affairs separate from what Robbins is in charge of... Robbins may still be President and can hire the AD, but the AD and Athletics pay for themselves.
Draconian cuts may be coming to the University, but not to the athletic department. Had we failed to jump the PAC12 ship and go to the BIG12, yes... we very well could have been in he same boat with the likes of WSU, who has real problems to survive. But our athletic department will be fine, at least until the next major realignment.
Yes, but the perception speaks when a school is having financial issues and building their sports programs.
Still has nothing to do with Arizona Athletics, which wholly funds itself completely separate and apart from the rest of the University. Robbins may very well have issues, but not with Athletics. If he is talking about cutting sports, it is a completely different analysis from the $240 million "miscalculation" involved with academics. Perhaps it has to do with the fact that Big12 travel will cost more, or that there are no teams (sand volleyball) at those schools (yet). When the revenue sports sort out all of the realignment issues (it ain't done yet), their subsidization of other sports will change. Maybe that's what he meant in any reference to sports.
Academic budget shortfalls, however, have nothing to do with the athletic department.
https://twitter.com/Matt_Reynoldson/status/1722731161561305175
https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/ncaaf/2022/05/20/pac-12-big-ten-big-12-revenue-fell-pandemic/9855686002/
Even Arizona Athletics has struggled. Regardless, there's a reason that Larry Scott, Bob Bowlsby and John Swofford have ALL moved on to other positions. The new commissioners are doing well.
The overhead to run a university is absurd. Yes, it's profitable but the margin isn't high. The public assumes that schools are making ridiculous amounts of money because tuition is getting out of hand.
There needs to be a better balance between athletics and academics. Perhaps Stanford should show the rest of the US how to operate a university AND an athletic department. Their fans don't show up...but it doesn't matter.
Quote from: KansasCityCats on November 10, 2023, 09:17:45 AMhttps://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/ncaaf/2022/05/20/pac-12-big-ten-big-12-revenue-fell-pandemic/9855686002/
Even Arizona Athletics has struggled. Regardless, there's a reason that Larry Scott, Bob Bowlsby and John Swofford have ALL moved on to other positions. The new commissioners are doing well.
The overhead to run a university is absurd. Yes, it's profitable but the margin isn't high. The public assumes that schools are making ridiculous amounts of money because tuition is getting out of hand.
There needs to be a better balance between athletics and academics. Perhaps Stanford should show the rest of the US how to operate a university AND an athletic department. Their fans don't show up...but it doesn't matter.
One might think a College that boasts a Top 10 type Global Business School would be able to handle the "Business Operations" of the College. Out of all the great minds on 1 campus, no one wants to admit that the are certain Draconian cuts that need to be made regardless if we were losing money every quarter or if we were making 10 billion a year profit. That is, the very top should be earning the least. There is such a thing as doing it for the love of the game. Find people who want to make a difference for a lower pay.
That SHOULD be true but we all know that leaders within any big business (universities included) are capitalists. They care about their personal wealth as much (if not more) than the success of their own employer.
Stories like this are why I absolutely despise social media. Because the average Laymen assumes this means Arizona will have to cut it's entire atheletics program. When the truth is the two operate seperately. Shocked people don't know this. But anyways, it sounds like the School made an accounting error (weird one at that) but it shouldn't have any issue recovering; and it is being overblown, heavily.
Quote from: KansasCityCats on November 10, 2023, 02:08:45 PMThat SHOULD be true but we all know that leaders within any big business (universities included) are capitalists. They care about their personal wealth as much (if not more) than the success of their own employer.
Of course, "we" are all, if nothing else, the peon's that allow the overlords to continue this idea. If ever there was a need to demonstrate/protest it would be about this.