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The silence is deafening
What is Lloyd doing wrong ?
Quote from: Azfansincebirth on April 21, 2023, 08:07:42 AM
What is Lloyd doing wrong ?
He isn't doing anything wrong more than he isn't doing anything right. This isn't a wholesome modality anymore. We are a top tier premiere basketball program, not a mid major. Converting us into a mid major is something that should be considered a red flag.
If Carter Bryant doesn't commit I think that the boosters may need to step in and force the removal of Tommy Lloyd after next season. It is escalating to that sort of scenario quickly.
Louisville has more money and lots of women.
Quote from: arxpert on April 21, 2023, 02:41:05 PM
Quote from: Azfansincebirth on April 21, 2023, 08:07:42 AM
What is Lloyd doing wrong ?
He isn't doing anything wrong more than he isn't doing anything right. This isn't a wholesome modality anymore. We are a top tier premiere basketball program, not a mid major. Converting us into a mid major is something that should be considered a red flag.
If Carter Bryant doesn't commit I think that the boosters may need to step in and force the removal of Tommy Lloyd after next season. It is escalating to that sort of scenario quickly.
Did you watch Louisville play last season? If so, you wouldn't hinge this recruitment on coaching ability because Lloyd's record breaking wins over a two year span outweigh the embarrassment of UL.
The boosters can't be upset if Bryant opts for the Cardinals because it would strictly be their fault if he doesn't come to Arizona. An NIL deal would be the sole reason that he opts for Louisville and the boosters are the only ones that can control that outcome...
Quote from: KansasCityCats on April 21, 2023, 10:57:41 PM
Quote from: arxpert on April 21, 2023, 02:41:05 PM
Quote from: Azfansincebirth on April 21, 2023, 08:07:42 AM
What is Lloyd doing wrong ?
He isn't doing anything wrong more than he isn't doing anything right. This isn't a wholesome modality anymore. We are a top tier premiere basketball program, not a mid major. Converting us into a mid major is something that should be considered a red flag.
If Carter Bryant doesn't commit I think that the boosters may need to step in and force the removal of Tommy Lloyd after next season. It is escalating to that sort of scenario quickly.
Did you watch Louisville play last season? If so, you wouldn't hinge this recruitment on coaching ability because Lloyd's record breaking wins over a two year span outweigh the embarrassment of UL.
The boosters can't be upset if Bryant opts for the Cardinals because it would strictly be their fault if he doesn't come to Arizona. An NIL deal would be the sole reason that he opts for Louisville and the boosters are the only ones that can control that outcome...
Kentucky women are some of the ugliest in the Nation per capita.
Also it doesn't matter what you think KC, Winning doesn't matter to these kids. They are retired before they are Sophomores at this point. Tommy either has to show he can participate at the highest level or he needs to move on back to under Mark Few's thumb.
At this rate it is looking more and more likely that Head Coach isn't a job for him. He doesn't thrive in the actual role. He rode some elite NBA level talent left behind and I refuse to listen to your bs about how he "re-recruited" them. They had no where else to go with no offers on the table. As soon as offers began to come in, they all bolted whether it was for the NBA Draft or now with NIL deals in the portal.
If Tommy can't land Bryant I think it is a heavy knock to his ability to bring in serious talent and this job requires an element of "non-wholesome" behavior that isn't really up his alley.
It's way too early to judge whether one recruit defines the potential success of a coach that won 61 games in his young two season career.
Quote from: KansasCityCats on April 22, 2023, 05:08:32 AM
It's way too early to judge whether one recruit defines the potential success of a coach that won 61 games in his young two season career.
The way you speak makes it sound like you don't give the credit to the players who went out and won the games. Tommy doesn't coach X's and O's in-game. Never has, never will.
I am going to say there is a change that is occurring in real time.
NIL is changing the landscape, and schools need to win or pay to play.
Arizona is not in a position to land as many as they would, but I do believe that Lloyd should have landed more than he has at this point at least.
I am still going to wait a year or so before I really start to voice my opinion on the matter.
A good 2024 recruiting class would eliminate any thoughts I have at the moment.
#BearDown
Quote from: mvpreed2 on April 22, 2023, 10:01:24 PM
I am going to say there is a change that is occurring in real time.
NIL is changing the landscape, and schools need to win or pay to play.
Arizona is not in a position to land as many as they would, but I do believe that Lloyd should have landed more than he has at this point at least.
I am still going to wait a year or so before I really start to voice my opinion on the matter.
A good 2024 recruiting class would eliminate any thoughts I have at the moment.
#BearDown
I agree with this notion. 1 thing I am going to continue to say is that a lot of the NIL problems have a lot to do with Tommy being the hire over Damon Stoudamire. It rubbed a lot of boosters and basketball related alumni the wrong way. This is sort of the push back that happens. With the talent left behind from the last regime basically gone, Tommy has to figure out how to remedy this and work out these deals. If a Casino in the PNW can land Timme and Nembhard to deals, there is no reason Tommy can't leverage Desert Diamond or Casino Del Sol (if that's what they are still called these days). There has to be some concerted effort put forth. Canyon Ranch is a major player in Tucson and not to mention Raytheon and other contractors. There are options. A very good way to get the University involved would be to leverage Eller into some projects that help assist in these matters.
Tommy better find a way. The clock is ticking.
The team deserves credit for helping Lloyd win over the past two seasons but you clearly didn't give him any credit for the accomplishments.
Arizona's administration is responsible for finding NIL deals....not our head coach. Despite having a major basketball program, it will be tough for a small city like Tucson to compete because we don't have the same donors/resources as bigger markets.
Got our man !! Great work CTL !!