Fifita's Dad
We've known Kalen DeBoer for a long time and he loved Noah when he was at Fresno State," Fifita said. "He recruited him hard when Noah was at Servite and they wanted both boys at Alabama.
"It's 'Bama, we had to listen. But, end of the day, both kids felt like they had unfinished business here. Plus, it's a family here — it really is. We want to keep this thing together and we know the whole team couldn't go to 'Bama just like the whole team wasn't being recruited to Washington. This is the best move for everyone and, with Noah and TMac and the core staying, we think we got a great shot to keep everyone else here as well."
https://twitter.com/BearDownU/status/1748850215929712973
Bama coach can't compare to a Mountain West COY imo.
Love these guys. Incredible mindset and family.
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Sooo... i thought the coaches were not allowed to speak with players if they were not in the portal?
Yup. True Wildcats. Give T-Mac the Biletnikoff next year so both guys can enter the Arizona ring of honor. Perhaps we'll build a statue after we make a deep postseason run next year...
And yes, AK...DeBoer cannot speak with either Arizona student. Wow
Quote from: KansasCityCats on January 20, 2024, 05:04:18 PMAnd yes, AK...DeBoer cannot speak with either Arizona student. Wow
Fisch cannot either legally
Quote from: Little George on January 20, 2024, 05:36:59 PMQuote from: KansasCityCats on January 20, 2024, 05:04:18 PMAnd yes, AK...DeBoer cannot speak with either Arizona student. Wow
Fisch cannot either legally
How do they do it without violating the rules? A friend of a booster? So it's not actually a booster or anyone directly within the program? Genuinely curious. I'm not familiar with the loopholes.
Quote from: |ᴘ|ʀ|ʏ|ᴍ|ᴇ| on January 20, 2024, 07:54:57 PMQuote from: Little George on January 20, 2024, 05:36:59 PMQuote from: KansasCityCats on January 20, 2024, 05:04:18 PMAnd yes, AK...DeBoer cannot speak with either Arizona student. Wow
Fisch cannot either legally
How do they do it without violating the rules? A friend of a booster? So it's not actually a booster or anyone directly within the program? Genuinely curious. I'm not familiar with the loopholes.
Good question. This what the FSU program is getting investigated for, yet everyone is doing it. Likely someone with money NOT a part of the staff doing all the fishing out. That way the staff can say? We did not know it was happening.
This is one of the many reasons that the NIL was an awful idea. It would be nice to have "some" rules in place. It's difficult to regulate random boosters when they reach out to kids that are currently enrolled at other schools.
Quote from: KansasCityCats on January 21, 2024, 06:01:43 AMThis is one of the many reasons that the NIL was an awful idea. It would be nice to have "some" rules in place. It's difficult to regulate random boosters when they reach out to kids that are currently enrolled at other schools.
There is a restriction for the staff in contacting the players, but the nothing saying the staff cannot contact the family either directly or through other means. That could be HS coaches, extended family, or any other contact point. A simple drop of a name and number with the tag call me. Tampering is tampering in my book either way.
There is absolutely no way to control it either way. Not unless you want "Minority Report" the movie to come true.
The only thing I can think of that would help control NIL is to max out what a player can earn and what a team can have in terms of a Hard Cap. Not that the school is paying, but they could take the collective value of all the NIL and say "it cannot exceed $50mil" or something like that --- and if it is discovered that it does, you can fine the school, take away scholarships, fine players for not disclosing properly. Stuff like that.
So for example, if the Max was 1 Million per player per season no matter where it comes from including endorsements, then at least there is some stabilization and everyone knows what the price is and it comes down to more than the money. At this point, some of these kids don't even need to go pro. They can slap a million into the S&P500 and never work again and the power of compounding interest/dividends reinvested would carry them and their families if started at Age 18-21. Especially if you are 18-19ish and get a few years to let that marinate. That's basically a free starter house in interest alone if you never do anything else after getting a graduate degree.
That type of statement alone is worth more than an entire college education if applied properly.
People will always find a way to get around the system, but right now there really is no system so maybe start with a baseline at least and track all income tax returns, LLCs associated with the kids and anyone associated with the kids. I mean this is becoming a true professional business and the NCAA definitely does not have the man power to track all of this. A.I. might, but again... Minority Report. Dystopian at best.
While I love to see this, I won't rest easy until the window closes. Massive statement though if all true. The big programs always want to take the center-cut and leave behind the end pieces. The loyalty here is almost completely unheard of. Especially in this day in age.
There will never be a system because everybody was dumb enough to jump in without creating rules and boundaries.
One of the many reasons that the MLB doesn't have a fanbase is the fact that they don't have a Cap, which only allows the big market teams to succeed.
The NCAA will be in the same boat and nobody will care about college athletics unless your name is Ohio St, USC, Texas, etc.
Quote from: KansasCityCats on January 22, 2024, 02:20:15 PMThere will never be a system because everybody was dumb enough to jump in without creating rules and boundaries.
One of the many reasons that the MLB doesn't have a fanbase is the fact that they don't have a Cap, which only allows the big market teams to succeed.
The NCAA will be in the same boat and nobody will care about college athletics unless your name is Ohio St, USC, Texas, etc.
Yet small payroll teams do win in MLB or at least make deep runs. Royals a prime example. Rays. Orioles lately...
You say this, but you are forgetting we are entering the CBDC era. It won't be possible to sneak around financially much longer. Yes it is the wild wild west right now, but it only takes a few universal rules to get the ball rolling.
Ultimately, the sooner that Football and Basketball are taken off Campus at the highest levels the better if your theory comes true.
There will always be exceptions but the big boys always win the World Series. If you saw the list of stars that started with the Royals and left in free agency, you'd laugh in disgust.
I guess you could argue that UCF won the National Title during the Covid year!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UiYOWwd43n8
Quote from: KansasCityCats on January 22, 2024, 08:11:25 PMThere will always be exceptions but the big boys always win the World Series. If you saw the list of stars that started with the Royals and left in free agency, you'd laugh in disgust.
I guess you could argue that UCF won the National Title during the Covid year!
Nothing wrong with loading up on rentals for a title run. The Orioles might crack and do it soon. They have the best pipeline maybe in MLB history, but they don't have the 2 or 3 big time pieces that carry teams home.
Tampa has had low payrolls and has been ultra competitive for many years now. You don't need to hide behind winning or losing a World Series to make your point. It's 162 games. When you are a tiny market with a low payroll and you lead the league in wins habitually like TB or BAL just did then you have proven plenty. Player scouting, farms, and development is always going to trump the Yankees or Dodgers buying the best players.
The Cubs won a WS bringing up Rizzo, Baez, and Bryant together from the farm and making the rental investment on Chapman. It doesn't make them some sort of sell out or any the less legitimate. That's just how MLB works. You do usually need certain players in the very end, but you don't need them to get to the trade deadline in first.
I think to say that buying a Closer at the deadline or trading a top prospect for an extra ace is sort of lame and discredits the rest of the team that got them to a point where it made sense to invest just a little bit more to get over the hump.
Not to mention that 90% of the time, those types of deals are for Top Prospects and the original team usually pays most if not all the salary of the "rental" because they just want the prospects and already planned to dump the money into whoever anyway. So the small market team just has to develop financially cheap farm prospects and sell them off instead of going up to "unlimited payrolls"
Baseball isn't fun because the cap doesn't exist. It isn't even a debate. Look at the past 20 World Series Champs (dating back to 2004). The Royals snuck in once. Otherwise, it's big payroll teams. No tampa, Seattle, Milwaukee, Baltimore, Arizona, Detroit, Colorado, etc.
The tv ratings prove that the sport will die soon. More people here watched a PRESEASON Chiefs game than a Royals game that was a huge factor in possibly winning the pennant in 2015.
College athletics isn't far behind and it's strictly the result of rushing into the NIL without structure.
I disagree about baseball dying. Does it have the following of the NFL? Of course not. But 72 million attended MLB games in 2022, vs. 17 million attending NFL games. MLB average attendance was nearly 30,000 per game, NFL 67,000 per game. 72 million is a lot of fans. Baseball is not dying
Quote from: Wildcat Dad on January 23, 2024, 11:57:42 AMI disagree about baseball dying. Does it have the following of the NFL? Of course not. But 72 million attended MLB games in 2022, vs. 17 million attending NFL games. MLB average attendance was nearly 30,000 per game, NFL 67,000 per game. 72 million is a lot of fans. Baseball is not dying
Baseball is the most affordable major sport to attend as a fan. You can get excellent seats at a Dbacks game for the same price as nose bleeds at an NFL game. In that regard, there will always be a demand for baseball.
Maybe this football thread should be moved to the MLB forum.
Yeah, I fell for the bait and derailed this thing, Pryme.
The attendance numbers are ridiculously inflated. The Royals do NOT have 16,136 average fans per game. The stadium is dead, similar to any day game (with the exception of Fenway/Wrigley). In the NHL, the San Jose Sharks averaged over 13,000 fans per game, which is more than 75% capacity...and they're one of the worst teams in the league.
The biggest TV draw for MLB is Sunday Night Baseball. ESPN averaged approximately 1.45 Million viewers in 2023 for those games. NFL's Sunday Night Football averaged approximately 18.7 Million viewers.
I loved baseball during my adolescent years (and still watch the U of A) but there isn't a fan under the age of 50 that could care less about the sport. They could have prevented the downfall if they had agreed to modern changes like the pitch-clock prior to this decade.
Quote from: KansasCityCats on January 23, 2024, 01:31:53 PMYeah, I fell for the bait and derailed this thing, Pryme.
The attendance numbers are ridiculously inflated. The Royals do NOT have 16,136 average fans per game. The stadium is dead, similar to any day game (with the exception of Fenway/Wrigley). In the NHL, the San Jose Sharks averaged over 13,000 fans per game, which is more than 75% capacity...and they're one of the worst teams in the league.
The biggest TV draw for MLB is Sunday Night Baseball. ESPN averaged approximately 1.45 Million viewers in 2023 for those games. NFL's Sunday Night Football averaged approximately 18.7 Million viewers.
I loved baseball during my adolescent years (and still watch the U of A) but there isn't a fan under the age of 50 that could care less about the sport. They could have prevented the downfall if they had agreed to modern changes like the pitch-clock prior to this decade.
Say that to one Theodore Epstein who just turned 50 on Dec 29. Look what his love for the game accomplished before 50.