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Title: Liam McNeeley
Post by: arxpert on April 14, 2024, 09:37:50 PM
Liam McNeeley might have the best shot I have seen in a long time from a HS prospect. That kid is a catch and shoot machine with a quick release and form that is NBA level today. If you need a 3 or a bucket off the jump shot, this is Himothy.

I don't know if Tommy Lloyd even is going to put his name in the hat for this kid, but I would call up Mr. Humberto of Los Pollos Hermanos and pay that kid to be on Campus asap.

I can see Calipari putting together a true super team and making this purchase, but Tommy Lloyd missing out on this opportunity would be criminal.
Title: Re: Liam McNeeley
Post by: |ᴘ|ʀ|ʏ|ᴍ|ᴇ| on April 15, 2024, 06:15:34 AM
Quote from: arxpert on April 14, 2024, 09:37:50 PMLiam McNeeley might have the best shot I have seen in a long time from a HS prospect. That kid is a catch and shoot machine with a quick release and form that is NBA level today. If you need a 3 or a bucket off the jump shot, this is Himothy.

I don't know if Tommy Lloyd even is going to put his name in the hat for this kid, but I would call up Mr. Humberto of Los Pollos Hermanos and pay that kid to be on Campus asap.

I can see Calipari putting together a true super team and making this purchase, but Tommy Lloyd missing out on this opportunity would be criminal.

It's interesting that you bring this up. Back when we originally brought in Jackson Cook as a walkon, I figured it may play a role in targeting future Montverde players that Cook was teammates / friends with on the team. Not that it would secure anybody, but that they may be willing to consider coming for a visit, and who knows what can happen once you've got your foot in the door.

McNeeley always seemed like the one that was most realistic in that regard, and yet I never even saw Arizona mentioned throughout his recruitment. It was a bit puzzling. Cook is a quality player as a walkon in his own right, but I kinda thought they may be looking to get further into the Montverde pipeline. Not an easy thing to do.
Title: Re: Liam McNeeley
Post by: Jdmarti on April 15, 2024, 07:24:01 AM
I have no idea for sure but he is in the 2024 class an we already  3 wing players in the class, I dought arizona  is serious about recruiting  him, tommy  seems to contact alot of players, but not really recruit them, don't know the reason for that.
Title: Re: Liam McNeeley
Post by: arxpert on April 15, 2024, 01:17:50 PM
Quote from: Jdmarti on April 15, 2024, 07:24:01 AMI have no idea for sure but he is in the 2024 class an we already  3 wing players in the class, I dought arizona  is serious about recruiting  him, tommy  seems to contact alot of players, but not really recruit them, don't know the reason for that.

I don't think Tommy is a great American recruiter. Just my opinion. He is just "ok".

I seriously hope our name is in the hat for Liam. He looks incredible to me. If anyone just checks out his highlights you can see his mechanics are amazing. He will be a NBA player and have a long career.

However, these days 95% of "recruiting" is just straight up how much money you can promise.

Tommy has the system that these kids like to play in, but Tommy also is difficult to play for. He has proven that he is not very flexible. He is always willing to go down with the ship instead of adapt and repair. This is as a whole and in-game.

In this situation I think Tommy would be extremely smart to get Liam on board. UConn has proven that you can win a National Title and be DOMINANT doing so with 3 or 4 Guard/Wings that are 6'5 to 6'7. Tommy is a little bit stuck in his ways of feeling like he needs at least 3 Ogres on the team to play the 5.

I would definitely only worry about playing time because of Tommy's seemingly back-room deals that he makes with kids to just give them minutes regardless of how they play and not discipline his players appropriately. Anyone with half a brain could have seen Boswell was going to be out of here (Transfer) by the end of the Wisconsin, Purdue, Bama, FAU stretch. He only got worse from there along with his body language and attitude on-court.

I would say Tommy was a good sport about it, but it actually was a big reason why this team didn't reach the heights it could have and also a big reason Caleb Love ended up having to take around what? 200-300 more shots than anyone else? This team had maturity issues that couldn't be overcome and they were centralized around Boswell all year. I hope the ball is spread around a lot more this season and especially if Love somehow returned I would think that he won't need to chuck as much out of simply not being willing to put up with a floundering core that was in place when he got here (Ballo, Boswell, Pelle). I think Pelle had a good season, but not great. Best of the 3 pre-existing players at least.

The new players coming in with Bradley hopefully leading us and KJ Lewis either starting or being one of the best 6th men in the Nation will be a breath of fresh air even if Love were on the roster. These new players coming seem very hungry.
Title: Re: Liam McNeeley
Post by: arxpert on April 15, 2024, 01:27:20 PM
Quote from: |ᴘ|ʀ|ʏ|ᴍ|ᴇ| on April 15, 2024, 06:15:34 AM
Quote from: arxpert on April 14, 2024, 09:37:50 PMLiam McNeeley might have the best shot I have seen in a long time from a HS prospect. That kid is a catch and shoot machine with a quick release and form that is NBA level today. If you need a 3 or a bucket off the jump shot, this is Himothy.

I don't know if Tommy Lloyd even is going to put his name in the hat for this kid, but I would call up Mr. Humberto of Los Pollos Hermanos and pay that kid to be on Campus asap.

I can see Calipari putting together a true super team and making this purchase, but Tommy Lloyd missing out on this opportunity would be criminal.

It's interesting that you bring this up. Back when we originally brought in Jackson Cook as a walkon, I figured it may play a role in targeting future Montverde players that Cook was teammates / friends with on the team. Not that it would secure anybody, but that they may be willing to consider coming for a visit, and who knows what can happen once you've got your foot in the door.

McNeeley always seemed like the one that was most realistic in that regard, and yet I never even saw Arizona mentioned throughout his recruitment. It was a bit puzzling. Cook is a quality player as a walkon in his own right, but I kinda thought they may be looking to get further into the Montverde pipeline. Not an easy thing to do.

I remember that observation about Cook. I think it is a great observation. Tommy should be doing as much as possible to help land players and open up pipelines in America. He has proven he can find International talent only 2nd to Sean Miller who is the best at it.

I really hope our name is in the hat. He would be perfect to play beside Carter Bryant. That would be an unguardable tandem for most teams while having KJ Lewis and Bradley attacking the rim and this Sanon kid seems like a monster. Phillips also looks like someone who could play true PG too. I can see a TON of Drive and Dish if we landing Liam. Guards and Wings who can get to the line is like Gold in College Basketball. Having an oversized true Center who can shoot Free Throws is Unicorn status and basically why Purdue made it to the Finals in and of itself.

I was shocked to see Bradshaw commit to Ohio State. This is what I mean by "Money" is 95% of Recruiting these days. I really felt like Calipari was going to secure him his bag in Arkansas. I am curious if he is going to get Wagner paid to come to Arkansas. This is a very interesting situation because players are going to be moving around from Kentucky, but not necessarily following Calipari. I think the FAU Coach who got the Michigan jerb is already bringing Vlad Goldin with him. I am wondering if Johnell Davis is going to follow or if someone like Calipari will get some good money together and create a Transfer Portal Superteam and maybe purchase Liam as his 1 or 2 Freshman 5 Star superstars.
Title: Re: Liam McNeeley
Post by: KansasCityCats on April 15, 2024, 02:53:04 PM
https://247sports.com/Season/2024-Basketball/CompositeTeamRankings/

That's true. Arizona only has the #2 recruiting class, which is primarily full of American-born shooters. Lloyd failed in finding another out of state kid that plays the same position...
Title: Re: Liam McNeeley
Post by: arxpert on April 16, 2024, 04:35:06 PM
Quote from: KansasCityCats on April 15, 2024, 02:53:04 PMhttps://247sports.com/Season/2024-Basketball/CompositeTeamRankings/

That's true. Arizona only has the #2 recruiting class, which is primarily full of American-born shooters. Lloyd failed in finding another out of state kid that plays the same position...

Not sure why you hate Liam. He is probably the best shooter in the Nation at the College level once he commits anywhere instantly.

UConn proved there is a viable way to play 3 to 4 6'5-6'7 Shooters and have 1 big. So I am not sure what scares you so much about redundancy.

Tommy's system is Run and Gun yet he plays a slow Center and focuses on slow Bigs... It's time to start calling a spade a spade. We are only going to play as fast as our slowest player and if we are going to have Bradley and KJ featured then we will need true Shooters anyway. While I like Sanon attacking and pulling up, his 3 is not nearly as NBA level as Liam's right now. Carter shouldn't be expected to carry the load at the 3pt line. Phillips may be able to hit some.

Hopefully Bradley is given more of a green light. I think he can shoot. Most people don't though. I think KJ can hit buckets too, but again, most would say he plays more of an Iguodala style.

This is 2024, there are no positions in basketball. Tommy only goes 7 functional players anyway. Stephen, Phllips could get minutes. I personally think Henri is very underrated, but if he wanted to transfer out because Liam came in then oh well. I'll take the youngster. I also think Sanon is waiting to find out what is going on too with transfers/Love? otherwise wouldn't he be listed as Green and a hard commit by now?

Otherwise like I said, there is no reason to not try to BUY Liam's services.

Bradley - Phllips
KJ Lewis - Sanon (Spark Plug Scorer)
Liam - Henri
Carter - Henri
Krivas - Stephen

9 players without including Conrad. Stephen probably won't see much of the court I would think Carter could even play small ball 5 in a TRUE Run + Gun system. Not a half in, half out system.

Pay the man Tommy. "Townsend" isn't going to get this group over the hump.

Be a man Tommy. Push chips all in to the middle. Get the #1 class and rebuild the American swagger of Arizona.
Title: Re: Liam McNeeley
Post by: KansasCityCats on April 16, 2024, 05:01:25 PM
Nobody "hates" the kid. We just don't need another freshman that plays the same position as 4 other kids under the age of 20. Last season, you were knocking Lloyd for "over recruiting". Be consistent.

KU recruited a ton of shooters and only had one big. When he was hurt, they fell apart. Arizona needs balance, regardless of how many players get minutes.
Title: Re: Liam McNeeley
Post by: FOOS on April 17, 2024, 05:59:35 AM
Quote from: arxpert on April 14, 2024, 09:37:50 PMLiam McNeeley might have the best shot I have seen in a long time from a HS prospect. That kid is a catch and shoot machine with a quick release and form that is NBA level today. If you need a 3 or a bucket off the jump shot, this is Himothy.

I don't know if Tommy Lloyd even is going to put his name in the hat for this kid, but I would call up Mr. Humberto of Los Pollos Hermanos and pay that kid to be on Campus asap.

I can see Calipari putting together a true super team and making this purchase, but Tommy Lloyd missing out on this opportunity would be criminal.

100%. Cal and Arkansas are gonna kill it
Title: Re: Liam McNeeley
Post by: arxpert on April 17, 2024, 01:20:03 PM
Quote from: KansasCityCats on April 16, 2024, 05:01:25 PMNobody "hates" the kid. We just don't need another freshman that plays the same position as 4 other kids under the age of 20. Last season, you were knocking Lloyd for "over recruiting". Be consistent.

KU recruited a ton of shooters and only had one big. When he was hurt, they fell apart. Arizona needs balance, regardless of how many players get minutes.

We only currently have 8 viable players.

Not sure why you think I am not picking a lane. This is not a deep roster. Tommy is about to screw it all up if he brings in 2 or 3 guys who are 24 to be Cedric Henderson's and such taking minutes from the Elite young players.

We don't need Old transfers to come in and take all the minutes from Phllips, Sanon, Carter, and Stephen. 1 Transfer who will mind his business and not try to take 30 minutes a game to give us 8ppg and a 1 3pt attempt? That will never be worth sitting Sanon and Phillips out.

So if you are hoping Tommy adds a Bebop and Rocksteady tandem of 2 Transfers that are 24 and Phillips + Sanon get no PT because of them just feelng entitled to "takeover the team" the way Keshad and Love did, then I am just hoping that it doesn't happen and will take the opposite side of your hope.

I would prefer the best 3pt shooter and jump shooter in America not in the NBA to be paid to come in and play for us over relying on Transfers who have no chemistry with the team anyway. We have room for maybe 1 Transfer to come in, but I would not make them into any sort of starter nor focal point. This is a youth movement, but it is not a Freshman movement. We have 4 guys with experience who can start if we truly want to. It won't be the incoming player's faults if they outplay them in practice since your mind seems to live in Practice as the all-knowing indicator of success.

Meanwhile A.I. ---- Practice??? PRACTICE???

Not sure if Stephen is ready or not, but he does have a big body and may be a defensive maven or The defensive maven that Krivas isn't in a true "Run and Gun" Format. Liam is not a 4. Liam is a NBA 2 and in College he could easily play next to Carter in a very unguardable fashion.

Also --->

So what if it resembles Kentucky's young team approach? It isn't. Bradley, KJ, Krivas, and Herni are not Freshmen they have experience. Some freshman are elite and deserve all the minutes they can get.

Coach Cal was not a very good in-game coach. I don't think Tommy is either, but I would hope Tommy will at least try to coach this year. Tommy has the system and won't move off of it. Krivas is slow. We can't run and Gun when our 7'2" Ogre is slow up and down the court. There is a universe where Bryant can play the 5 in Small Ball while we play a 6'7 Liam and a KJ + Sanon. Could also put maybe a faster Stephen in.

Since Conrad isn't going to play PG even though he may very well be a little Spanish Steve Nash - he falls into the category of maybe opening up a pipeline for Spanish players to recruit down the road.

Again, I'm not against bringing in 1 Transfer - but if you think it needs to be a Pelle Larsson situation where he demands or needs 30 minutes per game I feel that is the wrong approach when you have this level of talent coming in. I would have no idea why the talent would stick around. Tommy has proven that he will hit the portal every year. Causing transfer after transfer. He might as well release everyone from commitment and only sign Transfers if that's how he really feels. These elite players are not going to be happy being held back by Tommy.
Title: Re: Liam McNeeley
Post by: arxpert on April 17, 2024, 01:30:27 PM
PS - there is a difference between a Doutrive, Akot, Barcello or Paulius/Borovician hitting the portal and a Carter Bryant, Sanon, Phillips type hitting a portal. This team doesn't have that much left which means that who is here will get the minutes and the players currently with us are Good.

Dylan Anderson was a rough loss IMHO. We don't need to be losing players like that because Tommy wants to bring in 2-3 "Townsend"'s per year as transfers.
Title: Re: Liam McNeeley
Post by: KansasCityCats on April 17, 2024, 06:05:27 PM
Arizona only has depth at the wing and at center. There's no need to bring in another shooter.

I agree that the transfers shouldn't be major role players and/or ball hogs. Keshod played significant minutes but was vital to this team. Another power forward would be ideal, even if he gets 25+/- minutes.

It sucks that transfers are a common part of college basketball but we have to accept that every program will abuse the system like free agency. Hopefully our talented freshmen flourish; I think the wings will all contribute immediately.
Title: Re: Liam McNeeley
Post by: Jdmarti on April 18, 2024, 07:14:36 AM
I would like arizona  to pursue Brea from Dayton, defenses  would have to respect him from 3, if love r returns we are good though.
Title: Re: Liam McNeeley
Post by: KansasCityCats on April 18, 2024, 07:45:13 AM
There are a number of Power Forwards that would fit our system:

Tyler Bilodeau from Oregon State should be our top priority.  He can stretch opposing defenses but is big enough to defend centers.  The Sophomore crushed us on 8/10 shooting and 22 points (including 3/4 from deep).

Dillon Mitchell is a nice rebounder from UT that can run quickly in Lloyd's system.

Tarris Reed would fill out nicely if Chris Rounds brought him in from Michigan.

Great Osobor will be pursued by every D-1 program so he's a longshot but it would be impossible to say "no" to the Utah State transfer.

We all know about Oakland's Trey Townsend.  Undersized but would perfectly backfill Keshod's vacancy.

Saint Thomas at Northern Colorado was also previously mentioned.  A "smaller" double-double machine.

Amari Williams is likely on the radar but I don't think our staff should pursue the Drexel big man becaus he's prone to turnovers and hasn't really improved over the past couple seasons.
Title: Re: Liam McNeeley
Post by: arxpert on April 18, 2024, 03:16:29 PM
Quote from: KansasCityCats on April 17, 2024, 06:05:27 PMArizona only has depth at the wing and at center. There's no need to bring in another shooter.

I agree that the transfers shouldn't be major role players and/or ball hogs. Keshod played significant minutes but was vital to this team. Another power forward would be ideal, even if he gets 25+/- minutes.

It sucks that transfers are a common part of college basketball but we have to accept that every program will abuse the system like free agency. Hopefully our talented freshmen flourish; I think the wings will all contribute immediately.

I still don't see why you think there's no value in having shooting on the roster. Shooting is maybe the top commodity to have in the sport of basketball. I already assume we aren't getting Liam, but I think there is no logical reason not to put our name in the hat and a fat check in with it.

I have a lot of thoughts on this, but I will keep this one shorter. I think we are just at an impasse as a program. There is a changing of the guard. There really is no reason for Tommy to be bringing in more than MAYBE 1 Portal player (or inviting back Love or Pelle whatever). If Tommy chooses to bring in 3 guys who are 23-24 then I think we will just see at least a couple of the recruits decommit or eventually bail on Tommy.

The guys he recruited are not Borovicians or Paulius's. They will be playing heavy minutes if they end up suiting up for us.

I have absolutely no problem playing Carter next to Liam. Not sure why anyone would. That would be unguardable and would take pressure off of Carter to shoot 3s where he can work inside more. Especially with any 2 of Bradley/KJ/Sanon/Phillips on the court and then Henri or Krivas playing the "5". All 4 of those guards are going to be good defensively for us, but remember Tommy's way is to score 90-100ppg. So realistically his system requires Scoring for it to truly work.

I think that we have better defense than people are expecting. These players are much hungrier to show what they have. Krivas and Henri can play together. Sanon already sounds like a massive 6th man sparkplug.

I truly have no idea where a Transfer like a Townsend truly fits in at all. Tommy should just give all the players on the end of the bench the scholarships for 1 year and find some new walk ons. Gain favor as "That Dude" and everyone will want to come play for Arizona knowing Tommy is synonymous with "Him" because in the end it is very difficult and random to win a National Title in March, but it is not random at all to control your own destiny with scheduling and navigating your Conference slate to hang a now Big12 Conference Title Banner and a Big12 Tournament Banner. Those are controllable. So is Recruiting. Hence why I say March Madness is always #4 on that list of importance.
Title: Re: Liam McNeeley
Post by: arxpert on April 18, 2024, 03:19:55 PM
Quote from: Jdmarti on April 18, 2024, 07:14:36 AMI would like arizona  to pursue Brea from Dayton, defenses  would have to respect him from 3, if love r returns we are good though.

Brea is a great 3pt shooter. Not that great on defense, but he's another 6'6" type player that can shoot the ball. That is what Liam is. In theory I'd rather have Liam, but I would be fine with Shooting coming in that has Size overall.
Title: Re: Liam McNeeley
Post by: arxpert on April 18, 2024, 03:25:47 PM
Quote from: KansasCityCats on April 18, 2024, 07:45:13 AMThe Sophomore crushed us on 8/10 shooting and 22 points (including 3/4 from deep).

I just want to quote this from your PF bunch ----> Last year I said it all season. Tommy had no answers for any sort of athletic PF. Even Holmes had a bad game vs us for Dayton and it was still good statistically. We probably should have lost to them, but they stopped playing their style, didn't put up enough 3s against us. As mentioned here actually, "Brea" should have taked 15 3's vs us and Holmes should have ate all game.

Just because we saw PF's dominate us doesn't mean PF's will dominate other teams. A PF like "Osobor" doesn't even fit Run and Gun. I think this team has a new identity being forged in front of our faces. Krivas is the only Ogre now. Why did Dylan choose to leave overall? Money is fine and dandy, but I think it is more than money. Tommy seems to have a plan to roll with 1 Ogre and Stephen is more of a PF IMHO. He's not as big as Ballo or Dante. He's probably thicker than Koloko originally was. He will do fine running the floor I think.

I really want to see what Tommy ultimately decides to do because Phillips, Carter, Sanon, and Stephen are not coming here to do nothing, but watch transfers come in and take their minutes.
Title: Re: Liam McNeeley
Post by: KansasCityCats on April 18, 2024, 06:58:17 PM
No way could only two of Bradley, KJ, Sanon and Bryant be on the court at a time. That would give each of them 20 MPG. Most Arizona fans complained when KJ/Bradley only averages 20 min last season. The other two freshmen will be playing often.

I mentioned that Osobor would only have a look from Arizona because of his talent level, not as a result of his fit in our system. There are plenty of others that would complement our backcourt.

I'd personally prefer to add one PF contributor, one defensive-minded guard that wouldn't play often and one international player that can develop. That would leave an additional  scholarship for 2025-26 and create more minutes for an already deep team.
Title: Re: Liam McNeeley
Post by: arxpert on April 18, 2024, 09:38:24 PM
Quote from: KansasCityCats on April 18, 2024, 06:58:17 PMBradley, KJ, Sanon and Bryant

I said Bradley, KJ, Sanon, and Phillips.

We already can tell that one of those players will be the 6th man, 2 will be starters and 1 will be scrapping to earn some minutes. I imagine that would be Phillips at the moment and like KJ Lewis, Phillips may show up more ready than expected and Sanon may show up not as ready. We don't know.

What we do know is Tommy has yet to prove he will adapt.

My biggest spotlight will be to see if Tommy is willing to pull the plug on ANYTHING that isn't working out as opposed to staying married to it and going down with the ship. Now that Boswell is gone I think the loyalty should all be gone and out the door too. Tommy needs to put the best players for the job out there.

We can mock up a million lineups, but Tommy has to be willing to bench players who are struggling and not playing with a proper attitude.
Title: Re: Liam McNeeley
Post by: |ᴘ|ʀ|ʏ|ᴍ|ᴇ| on April 19, 2024, 12:02:24 AM
I hope Liam McNeeley doesn't read this post. He'll be disappointed to find out that the Liam McNeeley thread only briefly discusses Liam McNeeley.
Title: Re: Liam McNeeley
Post by: KansasCityCats on April 19, 2024, 04:09:12 AM
Should  Lloyd "adapt" or "put the best players out there"?  Those are two contradictory things. Either he reworks the system to allow minutes for kids that aren't ready to contribute or he plays the guys that deserve to be on the court.
Title: Re: Liam McNeeley
Post by: arxpert on April 19, 2024, 12:35:14 PM
Quote from: KansasCityCats on April 19, 2024, 04:09:12 AMShould  Lloyd "adapt" or "put the best players out there"?  Those are two contradictory things. Either he reworks the system to allow minutes for kids that aren't ready to contribute or he plays the guys that deserve to be on the court.

Last season, adapting would have been putting the best players and lineups on the court. He didn't do that. I don't think he will do it this season.

If he isn't adding the top transfers than that signals to me he will play the freshman with the preexisting players. If he brings in mid level transfers and gives them the playing time over the incoming freshman automatically then I would have a bone to pick.

If he bring in some transfers for depth, but doesn't use them much, then it would show growth as a coach (for me) because he hitched his wagon to a top flight recruit class and now he needs to play them. It's just like Duke. I can't see Duke's class showing up with 7 guys who entered the portal and 2 remaining, then Scheyer refilling the whole team with transfers and only letting Cooper Flagg get 25min per game cuz he brought in "Mason Gillis" from Purdue...

Duke and Arizona have a youth movement coming in. Embrace it. Just cuz Calipari couldn't coach freshmen, but could recruit them like no other, doesn't mean Tommy can't plug and play these freshman into his system which again I question because Krivas is too slow to play Run and Gun. So I think the system will be evolving too if Krivas is going to eat 30 minutes a game. Otherwise he could split time with Henri or Stephen and we can push the pace a little more.
Title: Re: Liam McNeeley
Post by: arxpert on April 26, 2024, 03:41:04 PM
After all the naysayers, UConn lands McNeeley. UConn.. a team predicated on stacking 3 or 4 guys who are 6'4 to 6'8 that can all shoot the ball. Champions at redundancy. Don't let me be the one to tell you what works and what doesn't. Too bad we won't see Carter and Liam side by side dominating.
Title: Re: Liam McNeeley
Post by: |ᴘ|ʀ|ʏ|ᴍ|ᴇ| on April 26, 2024, 04:44:27 PM
Quote from: arxpert on April 26, 2024, 03:41:04 PMAfter all the naysayers, UConn lands McNeeley. UConn.. a team predicated on stacking 3 or 4 guys who are 6'4 to 6'8 that can all shoot the ball. Champions at redundancy. Don't let me be the one to tell you what works and what doesn't. Too bad we won't see Carter and Liam side by side dominating.

Big Game Bob's brother will definitely make McNeeley earn his way onto the court, but he's not far from being D-I ready right now.
Title: Re: Liam McNeeley
Post by: arxpert on April 26, 2024, 10:46:54 PM
Quote from: |ᴘ|ʀ|ʏ|ᴍ|ᴇ| on April 26, 2024, 04:44:27 PM
Quote from: arxpert on April 26, 2024, 03:41:04 PMAfter all the naysayers, UConn lands McNeeley. UConn.. a team predicated on stacking 3 or 4 guys who are 6'4 to 6'8 that can all shoot the ball. Champions at redundancy. Don't let me be the one to tell you what works and what doesn't. Too bad we won't see Carter and Liam side by side dominating.

Big Game Bob's brother will definitely make McNeeley earn his way onto the court, but he's not far from being D-I ready right now.

The Suns would have won tonight if they had McNeeley in their starting 5. Guaaaaaaarannnnnteeeeeed
Title: Re: Liam McNeeley
Post by: |ᴘ|ʀ|ʏ|ᴍ|ᴇ| on April 26, 2024, 10:54:44 PM
Quote from: arxpert on April 26, 2024, 10:46:54 PM
Quote from: |ᴘ|ʀ|ʏ|ᴍ|ᴇ| on April 26, 2024, 04:44:27 PM
Quote from: arxpert on April 26, 2024, 03:41:04 PMAfter all the naysayers, UConn lands McNeeley. UConn.. a team predicated on stacking 3 or 4 guys who are 6'4 to 6'8 that can all shoot the ball. Champions at redundancy. Don't let me be the one to tell you what works and what doesn't. Too bad we won't see Carter and Liam side by side dominating.

Big Game Bob's brother will definitely make McNeeley earn his way onto the court, but he's not far from being D-I ready right now.

The Suns would have won tonight if they had McNeeley in their starting 5. Guaaaaaaarannnnnteeeeeed

A Big 3 of McNeeley, McNeeley, and McNeeley would have dropped 200 on Minnesota.
Title: Re: Liam McNeeley
Post by: arxpert on April 27, 2024, 12:11:14 AM
Quote from: |ᴘ|ʀ|ʏ|ᴍ|ᴇ| on April 26, 2024, 10:54:44 PM
Quote from: arxpert on April 26, 2024, 10:46:54 PM
Quote from: |ᴘ|ʀ|ʏ|ᴍ|ᴇ| on April 26, 2024, 04:44:27 PM
Quote from: arxpert on April 26, 2024, 03:41:04 PMAfter all the naysayers, UConn lands McNeeley. UConn.. a team predicated on stacking 3 or 4 guys who are 6'4 to 6'8 that can all shoot the ball. Champions at redundancy. Don't let me be the one to tell you what works and what doesn't. Too bad we won't see Carter and Liam side by side dominating.

Big Game Bob's brother will definitely make McNeeley earn his way onto the court, but he's not far from being D-I ready right now.

The Suns would have won tonight if they had McNeeley in their starting 5. Guaaaaaaarannnnnteeeeeed

A Big 3 of McNeeley, McNeeley, and McNeeley would have dropped 200 on Minnesota.

I enjoy when people troll the best players. McNeeley is about to make whoever pays the kid from Dayton look like idiots
Title: Re: Liam McNeeley
Post by: |ᴘ|ʀ|ʏ|ᴍ|ᴇ| on April 27, 2024, 01:29:13 PM
Quote from: arxpert on April 27, 2024, 12:11:14 AM
Quote from: |ᴘ|ʀ|ʏ|ᴍ|ᴇ| on April 26, 2024, 10:54:44 PM
Quote from: arxpert on April 26, 2024, 10:46:54 PM
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Quote from: arxpert on April 26, 2024, 03:41:04 PMAfter all the naysayers, UConn lands McNeeley. UConn.. a team predicated on stacking 3 or 4 guys who are 6'4 to 6'8 that can all shoot the ball. Champions at redundancy. Don't let me be the one to tell you what works and what doesn't. Too bad we won't see Carter and Liam side by side dominating.

Big Game Bob's brother will definitely make McNeeley earn his way onto the court, but he's not far from being D-I ready right now.

The Suns would have won tonight if they had McNeeley in their starting 5. Guaaaaaaarannnnnteeeeeed

A Big 3 of McNeeley, McNeeley, and McNeeley would have dropped 200 on Minnesota.

I enjoy when people troll the best players. McNeeley is about to make whoever pays the kid from Dayton look like idiots

Brea is a good shooter, but teams backing up the Brinks truck for him is pretty absurd, and frankly, desperate.
Title: Re: Liam McNeeley
Post by: KansasCityCats on April 27, 2024, 01:41:34 PM
Yup. Pelle shot a better 3-point percentage than Brea during his freshman campaign at Utah.

Regardless, Arizona has 5 shooters on the roster. A backup PF or backup PG would be a better fit, in lieu of bringing in another player that will be frustrated with minutes because we're stacked at the Wing.

Let's somebody get angry and transfer out of UConn instead.
Title: Re: Liam McNeeley
Post by: arxpert on April 29, 2024, 01:52:07 PM
Speaking of UConn, they just added Aidan Mahaney from Saint Mary's who I didn't personally have any interest in joining Arizona, but is a very interesting grab for UConn as a steady hand, but not really someone I would have thought UConn would go for. I think UConn/Hurley is playing this smart adding steady vets to try to help settle in Superstars. I felt it was natural for Mahaney to slide over to Virginia, but UConn is showing high IQ here while Tommy keeps chasing "what beats us".

If you notice, every year he is adding players that have archetypes of players that have beaten him. I think it is a terrible way to recruit transfers. We will see what Townsend and Awaka do for us going into the Big12, but I am not convinced the young players coming in will be happy about it and in a world of NIL, unless Tommy has these kids pre-paid to stay longer than a year if they don't go to the draft, then I think this is how we lose players instead of develop them to help us, we develop them to help other teams.
Title: Re: Liam McNeeley
Post by: KansasCityCats on April 29, 2024, 06:57:14 PM
We don't need Old transfers to come in and take all the minutes from Phllips, Sanon, Carter, and Stephen.

I think UConn/Hurley is playing this smart adding steady vets to try to help settle in Superstars.


These are two separate quotes from the same person within the same thread. Sounds like preferential treatment because one school can bring in transfers without repercussions but it's somehow detrimental when Tommy Lloyd adds depth with veterans.
Title: Re: Liam McNeeley
Post by: arxpert on April 29, 2024, 11:14:04 PM
Quote from: KansasCityCats on April 29, 2024, 06:57:14 PMWe don't need Old transfers to come in and take all the minutes from Phllips, Sanon, Carter, and Stephen.

I think UConn/Hurley is playing this smart adding steady vets to try to help settle in Superstars.


These are two separate quotes from the same person within the same thread. Sounds like preferential treatment because one school can bring in transfers without repercussions but it's somehow detrimental when Tommy Lloyd adds depth with veterans.

Or you are one of those people who try to gaslight others when 1 comment is not equal to another. UConn is not Arizona. Tommy is not Hurley.

Name some comparisons between Arizona and Uconn Basketball. I will wait.

The comments for 1 team (Arizona) are not absolute for any other team.

Tommy is not an experienced now 2x Champion Head Coach and for very good reason. Hurley has earned the ability to bring in anyone he wants whenever he wants and deploy them however he wants. He has proven he knows how to coach In-Game and he isn't afraid to bench players.

Tommy is a proven scared in-game coach and doesn't know how to adjust nor bench anyone to send a message. Tommy doesn't need older players coming in and making these incoming Freshman angry and pushing them into transferring out and setting Arizona back further. That is not what Arizona Basketball needs right now.

UConn can do whatever the F*ck it wants and not be questioned at all, especially by the likes of someone who is trying to undermine lesser intelligent people with a comment like that. Anyone who doesn't understand what KC Cat just tried to do here should post a comment and ask why he tried to liken Arizona to UConn as if we have anything in common at all as programs, philosophies, and Coaching abilities.

What works for UConn will not work for us.

Your comment has been exposed and debunked.

Carry on.
Title: Re: Liam McNeeley
Post by: KansasCityCats on April 30, 2024, 04:22:44 AM
I don't understand how I have been exposed.

Hurley is obviously praised when they bring in transfers for depth and Lloyd is ridiculed on your behalf.

I wish that transfers weren't a commonplace in college basketball but the game has shifted and our staff can't be blamed for filling gaps because players create their academic landscape like free agency. Perhaps I'm oldschool.